So going back to the understanding of how it generated this, is quite simply the most statistically relevant search space of it’s weights it has been trianed on and it has basically just produced a series of tokens, one after another that are relevant to the input, the next token and so on. It’s a trivial example I know, but it basically pattern matches it’s way through it’s vast search space just producing outputs based on context.

Which it does so in seconds, faster than I can type. The code is correct, it compiles and does exactly what I wanted. And the code looks pretty reasonable. It handles flotas, has error handling and handles space or line separated numbers on stdin.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think your points are pretty clear to me, that’s fine. I’m just seeing if you can perhaps see things a different way maybe?🤔 I would challenge the assertion that you cannot understand how Claude Code generated an output; which I can demonstrate easily with a fairly trivial example by the input:

Write a program in Go that sums a list of numbers from stdin and prints the result.

Most of the time, I take a very very long time to do anything. If I say, for example, “I’ll build an IRC Web Client”, that may not happen for weeks, if not months, until my sub conscience has has time to process everything. It’s like basically a “feeling” of internal readiness. I never talk through it, never actively think about it, it just happens.

You can basically think of this as pattern-matching. I’m very very good at very fast pattern matching and piecing pices of a puzzle together very quickly, sometimes with very little to go on, it’s often gotten me into a lot of trouble at work in my career because I can make a lot of assumptions very very quickly.

@bender@twtxt.net So yeah, no, I do not have an inner monologue at all. Most of the time my inner mind is busy just replaying music or visuals (or at least it used to before I lost my sight, these days it just replays visuals and sounds), but there is never a time when I “talk to myself”, ever, I don’t ever think through something, a problem or an activity and have self-arguments. I just do.

@bender@twtxt.net Fine, Let me answer properly and concretely 😅

Would you want your children not to learn anything, because “they have AI”?

No, children still need to learn. That will never change. What they learn however will over time.

Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework?

Yes, frankly I am. Why? Because much of what we teach them in school is utterly pointless.
For example, learning to read Shakespear never taught me anything useful in my life. I regret much of my school years to be honest.
I leanred to read and write, sure. But I learned Math, Science, Computing and how things work on my own by being very curious.

What sense will it make?

That assumes I answered “no”, which I did not. So it all makes perfect sense :D

What kind of future would that bring for them?

This assumes I said “Yes”, which I did :D It will be an itneresting future that’s for sure. I don’t think we can just bury our heads in teh sand and pretend it’s all going to go away, It will not. It will make things very interesting for sure, as we’re already starting to see what’s possible and what’s changeing. For example; ordinary people are using these LLM(s) to write their legal suit and defense in courts with varying levels of success.

Even if AI were to become omniscient, what will it be of the human race then?

I’m not convinced it ever will. In fact, I am not convinced we know how to create true intellience at all.

What would we do?

What would be so different from say an Alien invasion from far superious beings?
What would we do that? Band together and defend humanity?

Serve the AI? Maintain the AI?

That assumes that “AI” will become intelligent and omniscient, which I don’t believe it ever will.

Would we have found the true meaning of life then?

If the meaning of life is to create our own sub-species liken to ourselves, sure, maybe. But is that even a reality? not sure, I doubt it. We barely understand ourselves at the best of times, let alone how our minds works.

To care for AI, Is that it?

How would this be different to caring for a friend, a family member If we could ever truly reate an actual sentient being with real feelings and intelligenace, is there any reason to worry? Could we not be freinds and have mutual goals and form relationships?

@bender@twtxt.net Well no. Some of us don’t. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don’t have an inner monologue

@bender@twtxt.net Now that’s an interesting philosophical viewpoint right there. But this assumes that the “AI” we seemingly have available to us today is actually telligent, understands and has cognitive reasoning. It does not. All of these LLM models from big-tech companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Meta and Alibaba are all just very powerful, very large multidimensional neural networks with attention that are very good at statistical probabilities of ‘what comes next”. I think we get really upset over the wrong things sometimes. We need to continue to be upset that these 🤬 companies have basically destroyed any meaningful value of the concept of Copyright and Intellectual Property and Works of art. The so-called “AI” we have today is just a tool. Can you say for certain that the typewriter and the computer ruined our ability to write? Perhaps yes, but we still learn how to do so, likewise, I still think that learning to write code, research, read and write are all valuable skills to learn. Later on once you have the basics, you can defer some of the “tedious” work to these models, because frankly, they’re far better at inferencing and pattern matching than you or i will ever be, not because they’re better at pattern-matching per se, but because they have been trained on a very large corpus and they are much much faster at doing the same basic things we are far superior at.

@bender@twtxt.net Nope. Trust me I do not. The only time I do is when I’m reading/writing. I otherwise have no inner monologue when doing anything.

@arne@uplegger.eu This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute 😅 Here’s something interesting about me… I don’t ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, “inner monologue”. Maybe I’m odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of “talking to myself”.

Is it the fact that “big tech” companies have basically stolen all of human knowledge to their benefit to build these AI(s) that’s the problem? Or is it that these AI(s) can write code better than you can (some of the time)? Or is it that because of all of the above, there’s no joy left in writing code anymore? 🤔

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m very curious…

What I like about this whole computer stuff is that you can explore how
things work. You can dig through problems and solve them. Nothing is
more satisfying than finally understanding something after you scratched
your head for some hours.

Surely you could do the same with AI? Tinker with how it works, study it, understand it, build your own and realize what it really is (without all the big tech hype)?

@bender@twtxt.net I have no idea. Probably busy with life ya’know 😅 I’m just as guilty myself.

@bender@twtxt.net If you break it, I will fix it 😅

@bender@twtxt.net I have no time for simple pleasures anymore 😳

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Are you able to set a level of standards and expectations in the repo you are the maintainer of? 🤔

@movq@www.uninformativ.de What are you going to do about this? 🧐

Good Morning 👋

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com LOl 🤣

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Very nice 👍

@kiwu@twtxt.net Whoohoo! Congrats!!! 🙌

@movq@www.uninformativ.de are you sure it’s the browser is getting slow or is it website developers adding more more crap to their sites?

@tftp@tilde.town Hello 👋

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Very cool! reminds me of MS-DOS and Norton Commander back in the ye ‘ol days 😅

@kiwu@twtxt.net Doing well thank you! 🙏 Playing the Brisbane Open this weekend, Table Tennis 🏓

@bender@twtxt.net Yes, but my description is more accurate 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net I believe it’s been money well spent if I’m to be honest. It’s a great “get away” and “adventure” for not just myself but the family too. Getting away from it all, experiencing nature and what this wonderful country has to offer is pretty nice 👍 As long as we keep up the adventures over the long time, use it several times a year, it will be very well wroth the investment 👌

On the weekend just gone we also visited Twin Falls, which was absolutely magnificent!

@bender@twtxt.net Natural Brisge lol 🤣

Natural Bridge

@movq@www.uninformativ.de here here 🙌

@klaxzy@klaxzy.net yarnd/*

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very cool! 😎 Love that little birdy in the video too 👌

@bender@twtxt.net Well I’m open to ideas of course 😅 My goal here was to build something like a Civ-1 inspired game that’s playable online and multiplayer. Do you remember this old bad boy that was played on PC(s) on MS-DOS ?! 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Anything I can do to help with getting started with the game? Help page not enougH/ Some “Getting Started” guide? Walk-through? 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net Yeah !

Maybe put a notice when on mobile stating that the game is for desktop, or bigger screens (tablets), only?

I’ll do this for sure!

495 turns and about ~4hrs alter I won! 🙌 Small map, 2-players, myself and an AI player. 😅 – It took forever to beach the island the AI player was on and get enough Galley’s and Swordsmen just to push back and eventually slowly destroy all enemy units and capture all cities! 🤣

@kiwu@twtxt.net Working on my game Frontier Crown – Going to push a new version today hopefully that includes much improved graphics, expanded ruleset and scope.

The auDA, and some 3rd-party identify service and my Registrar are a joke!

WOW! I just had to share this little story I ran into today.

I tried to register a .AU Domain the other day, only for it to instantly fail.

I emailed support, which took several days to respond, only for them to respond by saying (paraphased):

We’re sorry, but the identify checks failed. The 3rd-aprty service doesn’t tell us why, But, please make sure that the ID you used matches the Full Name, including any Middle name(s).

I used my Passport number. Which of course has my First, Middle and Last Name.

I can only assume at this point that the checks failed on the missing “Middle name”. Why? Because the Registrar I use has a database and user interface for “contacts” that only have support for First name and Last name. NO Middle Name.

🤦‍♂️ This is basically stupid at this point. Systems cannot be trusted at the most fundamental level, no matter how good they are.

Until we figure out how to build a system that allows an individual to prove to another entity that they are who they say they are without a shred of doubt (i.e: cryptographically), we’re stuffed.

There is literally nothing I can do in this case. The auDA are at fault. The 3rd-party identify service (unknown) are at fault. The registrar are at fault. Hell, even the Passport office are at fault for even bothering to or requiring a Middle name.

How has “identity” come to this?

@klaxzy@klaxzy.net Check https://twtxt.dev/clients.html

@bender@twtxt.net Yeah I donate to the Signal Foundation for this reason.

Just cancelled my sponsorship of two developers on Github, sorry 😞 – I’m not going to sponsor going forward if no-one else can be bothered to. It seems silly to be the sole sponsor of another’s work or project 🤦‍♂️

@bender@twtxt.net Nah, i’m gonna start a blog for our adventure i think instead 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I’m afraid my ability to share photos like you do aren’t quite up to scratch 😅

Back home now! 🏡

Hmmm doesn’t appear to be documented 🧐 Nut ly watch reckons i climbed 242m so yhay part is right!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I don’t axtually k ow what the incline was we went up! Haha 😅 Honestly just guessing hmm must be documented somewhere 🧐

that last one is what we walked up I reckon probably a 30 or 40° incline at least 250 m straight up!