Going to try and few up a few more UX bugs today with yarnd.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Have you rebuild from main recently? 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah to avoid cutting off bits at the end making hashes end in either q or a 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz No no, it’s just barks at the slightest thing going on around the neighborhod 😃 like it just goes a bit nuts often 🤣 it was a rescue dog, two years old, and it wasn’t treated very well, a street dog. I think it’s just basically afraid of every human in the world 😢

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Programming is art. You become good at art by practising your art. You learn artistic patterns by being inspired by and reading others art works. The most importance however is that you practise your art.

@javivf@adn.org.es Yes and still in review .

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org You are of course right! 🤣 There are some low level components that can and should be unit tested for sure! 👌

How do you stop a dog from barking? 🧐

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz It is 😅

@bmallred@staystrong.run You mean ActivityPub + Twtxt? 🤔

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ysy!!! 🙌🙌🙌

@bmallred@staystrong.run It really is 🤣

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@bender@twtxt.net Bahahah 🤣😂 mate, me and one of my SRE colleagues actually came up with the terminology ourselves! 😛

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Heh I have to wear gloves now when swining an axe or it hurts my hands 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz / @xuu@txt.sour.is Recommend you git checkout main && git pull, rebuild and redeploy: make build, and however you deploy. 🙏 Lots of fixes (no more stalling) and optimizations to the feed fetcher, smoother cpu usage, better internal metrics.

I’m not even being facetious here either. I’d llove to see you “unit tests” this:

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well you are being slightly rude 🤪 Sure you could write unit tests for this, but in practise testing emergent properties and behaviors of a system is actually a lot harder than you might realize. But I’m happy to always be proven wrong 😑

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Yeah right now I’m trying to see if I can “spread the CPU usage of fetching N feeds across M duration” so basically “smooth” out the spikes in CPU usage.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’ve almost fixed this btw 🤗 Just testing it thoroughly and polihsing the code. In case you’re curious, I do this style of development called “Observability Driven Development” (ODD) whereby I make observations of the system via metrics and internal observations and adjust the system’s overall behavior to the desired outcome 😅

Hey @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz If you see this, I’m aware of a bug. I’m trying to figure it out and fix it. bare with me 🤗 It is what’s causing things to “stall” and to have to “restart”. Sorry 😞

@@twtxt.net The fact that it has an SDK and process management is quite amazing g! 🤯

@movq@www.uninformativ.de No problems 🤗

@bender@twtxt.net Haha 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Please git pull and rebuild 😂 Off of main. I merged the catcher branch already!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @xuu@txt.sour.is Recommend you git checkout main && git pull && make build. Few bug fixes 😄

@bender@twtxt.net You’re kind of right though 😄 It makes it more engaging IMO 😅

“Monosyllabic replies” refers to responses that consist of a single syllable. These types of replies are typically brief and concise, often used in situations where a simple, direct answer is given. Examples include words like “Yes,” “No,” “Okay,” or “Sure.”

😂 Can I imply you’re not interested in things like “LIke”, “Report”, etc?! 😂

@bender@twtxt.net I knew you wouldn’t be interested in a Twtxt+ActivityPub 😂 Now I have to go figure out what “monosyllabic replies” means 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Shall I add this to the spec I’m writing? ✍️

After yarnd v0.16 is released and the next round of specification updates are done and dusted, who wants me to have another crack at building Twtxt and activity pub integration support?

The reason I think this can work so well and I’m in full support of it is that it’s the least disruptive way to resolve the issue of:

where did this hash come from?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think we can make this work 👌 As long as it’s just a client hint.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Should be fine 🙌

Otherwise assume normal behavior. Pretty easy to implement I think.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de If we’re focusing on solving the “missing roots” problems. I would start to think about “client recommendations”. The first recommendation would be:

1. Replying to a Twt that has no initial Subject must itself have a Subject of the form (hash; url).
   

This way it’s a hint to fetching clients that follow B, but not A (in the case of no mentions) that the Subject/Root might (very likely) is in the feed url.

@bender@twtxt.net Fuck I meant “bugs” 🐞 Geez 🙄

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Unless you’ve found buds in this branch it should be fine 😆 Um running yhe dame!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Lwt me think on this.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Nope it’s totally fine 🤗

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz No new peers shoyls show up automatically.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk You’re welcome 🤗 We’ll run into each other again. I’m sure! 🤞

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Well some! 🙌

@thecanine@twtxt.net Yeah this is where I think all the hype really falls down. It’s all just a really really expensive search engine and auto-complete 🤦‍♂️ That’s it!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz MinIO is a good choice for a self-hosted Object Storage (compatible with S3 APIs) 👌

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Don’t be nervous, I make sure I test the shit™ out of things before anyone else does 🤣

Hello @Yarn.social@yarn.social 👋 (testing something)

@thecanine@twtxt.net Sorry, but you were expecting what now?! 🤣

I also fundamentally do not believe in the notion that Twtxt should be readable and writable by humans. We’ve thrown this “argument” around in support of some of the proposals, and I just don’t buy it (sorry). As an analogy, nobody writes Email by hand and transmits them to mail servers vai SMTP by hand. We use tools to do this. Twtxt/Yarn should be the same IMO.

@eapl.me@eapl.me I honestly believe you are overreacting here a little bit 🤣 I completely emphasize with you, it can be pretty tough to feel part of a community at times and run a project with a kind of “democracy” or “vote by committee”. But one thing that life has taught me about open source projects and especially decentralised ecosystems is that this doesn’t really work.

It isn’t that I’ve not considered all the other options on the table (which can still be), it’s just that I’ve made a decision as the project lead that largely helped trigger a rebirth of the use of Twtxt back in July 1 2020. There are good reasons not to change the threading model right now, as the changes being proposed are quite disruptive and don’t consider all the possible things that could go wrong.

@bender@twtxt.net ROFL 🤣