@arne@uplegger.eu Hals- und Beinbruch! Die Bahn hat ja nur die vier Feinde: FrĂŒhling, Sommer, Herbst und Winter. Wurdest Du heute positiv ĂŒberrascht?
@prologic@twtxt.net You just have to stay in the center. Itâs supposed to be calm in there I heard. Just getting there is the tricky part. Good luck!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de âThermometer must not be installed near aircraft turbine exhaust.â
@xuu@txt.sour.is My layout looks like this:
- storage/
- storage.go: defines a
Storage
interface
- sqlite.go: implements the
Storage
interface
- sqlite_test.go: originally had a function to set up a test storage to test the SQLite storage implementation itself:
newRAMStorage(testing.T, $initialData) *Storage
- storage.go: defines a
- controller/
- feeds.go: uses a
Storage
- feeds_test.go: here I wanted to reuse the
newRAMStorage(âŠ)
function
- feeds.go: uses a
I then tried to relocate the newRAMStorage(âŠ)
into a
- teststorage/
- storage.go: moved here as
NewRAMStorage(âŠ)
- storage.go: moved here as
so that I could just reuse it from both
- storage/
- sqlite_test.go: uses
testutils.NewRAMStorage(âŠ)
- sqlite_test.go: uses
- controller/
- feeds_test.go: uses
testutils.NewRamStorage(âŠ)
- feeds_test.go: uses
But that results into an import cycle, because the teststorage
package imports storage
for storage.Storage
and the storage
package imports testutils
for testutils.NewRAMStorage(âŠ)
in its test. Iâm just screwed. For now, I duplicated it as newRAMStorage(âŠ)
in controller/feeds_test.go.
I could put NewRAMStorage(âŠ)
in storage/testutils.go, which could be guarded with //go:build testutils
. With go test -tags testutils âŠ
, in storage/sqlite_test.go could just use NewRAMStorage(âŠ)
directly and similarly in controller/feeds_test.go I could call storage.NewRamStorage(âŠ)
. But I donât know if I would consider this really elegant.
The more I think about it, the more appealing it sounds. Because I could then also use other test-related stuff across packages without introducing other dedicated test packages. Build some assertions, converters, types etc. directly into the same package, maybe even make them methods of types.
If I went that route, I might do the opposite with the build tag and make it something like !prod
instead of testing. Only when building the final binary, I would have to specify the tag to exclude all the non-prod stuff. Hmmm.
Dang it! I ran into import cycles with shared test utilities again. :-( Either I have to copy this function to set up an in-memory test storage across packages or I have to put it in the storage package itself and guard it with a build tag that is only used in tests (otherwise I end up with this function in my production binary as well). I donât like any of the alternatives. :-(
Thank you, @eapl.me@eapl.me, this is awesome! Iâm curious to see if we find some more advantages with the current approach. It seems there should be some more, but I can only think disadvantages right now. :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net Best wishes!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Did you place it in the sun? We only got 15°C today.
@prologic@twtxt.net Damn! :-( Yeah, I wonât build that into my client. Not worth it for the many things that are still undetectable and the low frequency it happens.
@bmallred@staystrong.run Oh, I hear you! Itâs always after carefully proofreading and publishing that a typo suddenly pops up. :-) Not sure if amending your edit implementation is really worth it, but happy hacking in case you do.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Luckily, theyâre not made of steel as I would not have made it home with such heavy weights. :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Fuck! So there arenât any non-criminal printer vendors out there anymore. Very sad. I really donât understand why this is not highly illegal in the entire world.
And I just added a video clip of the woodpecker. As you can easily see from the shaking, it hammers so dang hard that the whole ground around the tree vibrates.
I went on a 5:30 hours long hike to my second backyard mountain. About 12km to get there and roughly 9km on the way back. It was super nice, sunny all day long, 12°C and luckily just a little bit of wind. Great scenery. I managed to capture one great spotted woodpecker hammering along. There was also a kestrel hovering over a meadow and then landing on a sports field light pole. At the castle ruin I could watch 10-12 gliding red kites (with the V-shaped tail) and other raptors, maybe bussards, I donât know, for about five minutes. That was fascinating. Unfortunately, my camera doesnât too well with moving targets.
86 more photos: https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-auf-den-hohenrechberg-2025-03-03/
@prologic@twtxt.net No edits anymore! \o/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, the ground was wet here, too. Some sections of esp. smaller paths had turned into mud holes. There are a few notorious spots. Oh well, you just have to press on. :-)
Forest animals also have to do the laundry, they even have a proper clotheshorse! See: https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-zu-den-schurrenhoffuechsen-2021-05-15/07.jpg :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, stimmt! :-D
@bmallred@staystrong.run I forgot one more effect of edits. If clients remember the read status of massages by hash, an edit will mark the updated message as unread again. To some degree that is even the right behavior, because the message was updated, so the user might want to have a look at the updated version. On the other hand, if itâs just a small typo fix, itâs maybe not worth to tell the user about. But the client doesnât know, at least not with additional logic.
Having said that, it appears that this only affects me personally, noone else. I donât know of any other client that saves read statuses. But donât worry about me, all good. Just keep doing what youâve done so far. I wanted to mention that only for the sake of completeness. :-)
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Iâve commented on the ticket: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/issues/14#issuecomment-19142
In all reality, though, I donât see that our community will come to an agreement. Some folks just donât want to give up on the content-based addressing scheme.
@bmallred@staystrong.run Not an issue if youâre the doctor working there. :-)
@bmallred@staystrong.run Any edit automatically changes the twt hash, because the hash is built over the hash URL, message timestamp and message text. https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html So, it is only a problem, if somebody replied to your original message with the old hash. The original message suddenly doesnât exist anymore and the reply becomes detached, orphaned, whatever you wanna call it. Threading doesnât break, though, if nobody replied to your message.
Es gibt Tage, da kommtâs mir auch so vor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUkkyrHc8so
We went up our backyard mountain again right after lunch. The sun peaked through the clouds sometimes. The 6°C felt much, much cooler with the northeast wind. We got lucky, though, it was dead calm at the summit. At least on the southwestern side, which is a few meters lower than the very top to the east. That was shielded absolutely perfectly from the wind (we were extremely surprised), so we sat down on a bench and could really enjoy the sun heating us up. Apart from the haze, the view was really nice.
There were even patches of snow left up top, that was unexpected. Also, somebody created a cool rock art piece on a tree stump. That one rock absolutely looked like a face. Crazy!
Gewisse Ăhnlichkeiten sind nicht zu leugnen: https://datajournal.org/schon-wieder/
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I donât see a burst of new twtxt clients popping up. Yeah, the most recent ones are TwtxtReader and twtxt-el. Did I miss one? I agree with @david@collantes.us, looks normal to me. :-)
Iâm also working on my rewrite at the moment, but that started⊠*looking at the git history*⊠oh wow! O_o Over two years ago! I just implemented jumping to the next/previous unread message.
I just learned about a few to me unknown git settings: https://blog.gitbutler.com/how-git-core-devs-configure-git/ Letâs see how quickly I canât live without them anymore. ;-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @david@collantes.us Where can I join you? Building a log cabin in the woods would be dang awesome!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I donât know. It seems a bit like whatever we do or donât do, weâre gonna lose. :-( Unless the ban is successful.
Amd of course, TDD! I tried that, but it doesnât work all that great for me in its strict form. I have the feeling that coming up with a single new failing test, making it pass, maybe some refactoring, rinse and repeat wastes significantly more time than doing it in â what they call â the âbundleâ approach. Coming up with several tests in advance and then writing the code or vise versa is usually much quicker. I do find that more enjoyable, it also helps me to reduce smaller context switches. I can focus on either the tests or the production code.
As for the potentially reduced code coverage with a non-TDD approach, I can easily see which parts are lacking tests and hand them in later. So, thatâs largely a specious argument. Granted, I can forget to check the coverage or simply ignore it.
I agree with John, TDD results in less elegant code or requires more refactoring to tidy it up. Sometimes, itâs also not entirely clear at the beginning how the API should really look like. It doesnât happen often, but it does happen. Especially when experimenting or trying out different approaches. With TDD, I then also have to refactor the tests which is not only annoying, but also involves the danger of accidentally breaking them.
TDD only works really well, if you have super tiny functions. But we already established that I typically donât like tiny methods just for the purpose of them being extremely short.
When fixing a bug, I usually come up with a failing test case first to verify that my repaired code later actually resolves the problem. For new code, it depends, sometimes tests first, sometimes the productive code first. Starting off with the tests requires the API to be well defined beforehand.
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Just before the pandemic, we watched Uncle Bob videos once a week in the lunch break. While almost all of my old teammates agreed with his views, I partially found them to be very odd and even counterproductive.
I didnât come across John Ousterhout or any of his work before, at least not deliberately. So, this document is my first contact.
I only finished the chapter on comments and I totally agree with John so far. This document just manifests to me how weird Bobâs view is on certain subjects.
I always disagreed with the concept of a maximum method length. Sure, generally, shorter functions are probably better, but it always depends. And Iâve certainly seen super short methods that just made the code flow even worse to follow. While âone function should only do one thingâ is a nice general rule, Iâm 100% in team John with the shown examples. There are cases, where this doesnât help readability at all. Not even close.
To me, a function always has to justify its existence. Either by reusing it at least at another place or by coming up with dedicated tests for it. But if it is just called once and there are no tests, I almost always decide against it. Personally, I donât mind longer methods. We just recently had a discussion about that and I lost against two other workmates who are more in Uncle Bobâs camp, they refactored one medium sized method into three very short ones. Luckily, we agree on most other topics.
Lol, what!? The shorter the method, the longer the variables inside? I first thought I misread or the writeup mixed it up. Iâll always do it the other way around.
Iâve been also bitten badly by outdated comments in the past, but Bob must have worked on really terrible projects to end up with such an attitude to dislike comments. Oh well. No doubt, Iâve come across by several orders of magnitude more useless comments, in my experience (autogenerated) JavaDocs fall in the category more frequently than not. So, I know that there are different types of comments. A comment doesnât automatically mean that it is good and justified.
But I also partially agree with Bob and John and think that a good name has a proper chance to save a comment. Though, when in doubt, I go Johnâs route and use a shorter name with a comment rather than use a kilometer long identifier. Writing good comments typically takes some time, sometimes much longer than writing the code. It regularly takes me several minutes. Itâs a hard art.
I perhaps should read up on Johnâs work. He seems to be more reasonable and likeminded. :-) Let me continue to complete this document.
@thecanine@twtxt.net Thatâs one of my favorite dogs. Very cute. I like its headband and bandana with the bones.
@david@collantes.us Yeah. A horrendously wrong but simple solution often outpaces are bit more correct but complex one. Especially if the simple one suggests that oneself doesnât have to change at all and can just continue along. Wishful thinking.
@bender@twtxt.net @arne@uplegger.eu Hahaha, I love it! :-D
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Same. It actually goes for anything AI-related. Itâs best kept in /dev/null.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh right, I completely forgot about the media! Maybe a sign that theyâre losing their relevance? The third power appears to be gone or changed sides. Lots of them work on their own abolishment.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @arne@uplegger.eu Ach Herrjeh, was fĂŒr ein Interview! O_o Unfassbar. Da kannste den Sender auch gleich dichtmachen, sowas braucht ja echt niemand. Der Moderator hört sich in der Tat arg versprengt an. :-(
@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Neat, I got the principle, so mission accomplished. :-)
I have configured my vim to use a tab width of four. So, I noticed that especially https://www.falsifian.org/blog/2021/06/04/catalytic/reachability_with_stack.cc (but also partially the other C++ file) mixes tabs and spaces for indentation. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I didnât, so itâs working fine. :-) I should rotate me as well.
Na, youâre spot on, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! The result is an expected, terrible disaster. It just seems the absolute catastrophy is delayed for another four years.
Even though Iâm the last one who wouldnât be glad about banning the nazis, Iâm not a fan of banning parties in general. I believe that a healthy democracy has to withstand extremists. Whether itâs still healthy is debatable. To me it appeared that the failed attempts to ban NPD in the past actually helped them gain more supporters.
The big established parties are all bad traitors. I blame them and their actions to help raise AfD. They just give a fuck about the ordinary people, theyâre only concerned about their private gain and power. I bet nothing will change, to the contrary, it will only get worse. The winners do have the chance to turn it for the better, but they just will not. No way, unfortunately.
But then, we must not forget that people are just dumb and stupid, too. Also, that wonât change. AfD wonât help these idiots either, but they still vote for them. I also donât understand how there is still so much support for the other big parties left. Education is important. Very important. But I have the impression that weâre lacking it.
It was mostly cloudy, but every now and then the sun peaked through. With very little wind, the 12°C felt quite nice. Especially for a hike. With the sun completely hidden and more wind, the lunch break at the summit was a bit chilly, though.
Thereâs a bad looking crack in the climbing rock in 10. When you have eagle eyes, you might be able to see the hooks in the cliff for the climbing ropes. I havenât seen this one before. Also, it looked like several cubic meters of earth, grass and rock fell off the top.
On the way home, it got much more sunny. I found yet another skyrocket stick. That was pretty neat. And we saw the first field of snowdrops. With some bees checking them out. In total we walked a bit over 15km.
More pics: https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2025-02-23/
Spring must be here. I just saw the first bee of the year. She paid me a visit when I was baking waffles outside as todayâs hiking tucker.
Wuuuhuuuu, wie geil! Die neunte Staffel von Feuer und Flamme ist da: https://www.ardmediathek.de/serie/feuer-und-flamme/staffel-9/Y3JpZDovL3dkci5kZS9mZXVlcnVuZGZsYW1tZQ/9 Da muss ich mich dann wohl leider direkt durchsuchten.
@arne@uplegger.eu Nur gebrauchtes Lego ist gutes Lego!
@arne@uplegger.eu Right, theyâre great for upcycling. I knew youâd love that part. ;-)
@xuu@txt.sour.is Hahaha, this is great! :â-D
@bender@twtxt.net Oh dear!
@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Thatâs cool, dedicated parking for snow. :-) There are also some rather large icicles. Thanks for sharing this photo! <3
Very sunny 16°C, heaps of people outside. As soon as we were a bit further into the forest, we had it completely for us. From the foot we thought that the view might be rather good, but up at the summit, it turned out to be very hazy. Oh well. Surprisingly, I found four skyrocket sticks in premium quality. More than after New Year! Also, we came across two deer. It was a very nice two hours walk. No photos, though, sorry.
Iâm happy to note that tomorrow is already Friday. However, looking back on the week, I canât think of anything terribly useful Iâve accomplished. Hard to distinguish it from a plain zero. Again. Hmm. Anyway, looking forward to the weekend.