@prologic@twtxt.net That too, yeah ⦠š¢
Javaās Swing is allegedly in āmaintenance modeā, so I doubt itās a good idea to use it for new programs. For example, I very much doubt that it will ever support Wayland.
The replacement is supposed to be JavaFX, but thatās not included in JREs ā anymore! It used to be, now itās not, even though itās well over 15 years old now.
This whole thing (āJava GUIsā) appears to have stagnated a lot. Probably because everything is web stuff these days ā¦
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javafx/faq-javafx.html#6
@arne@uplegger.eu MeckPomm erscheint mir immer wie ein groĆartiges Bundesland, in dem ich gerne Leben würde. Kleines HƤuschen auf dem Land mit Hühnerstall. Ginge aber ā was auch diese Umfrage da impliziert ā vermutlich nur, wenn ich meinen derzeitigen Job behalten und full-remote weitermachen würde, damit genug Geld flieĆt? š¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ⦠guess I should take a look at Qt. š¤ Thatās the one popular toolkit that Iāve never really tried for some reason. I really donāt like C++ (might as well use Rust), so Iāll also use Python.
(⦠wonāt be fast, either, though ā¦)
The one for Delphi was quite good.
It was! I didnāt use Delphi for long, though. Dunno why, I always gravitated towards Visual Basic back then. š
These days I donāt deal with GUI programming anymore.
I also avoid it when possible, because ⦠itās exhausting, because ⦠the tools that I have/know are āsubparā. Doing anything regarding GUIs always feels like a chore. That wasnāt the case in the VB days.
Well, I made this in ~2009 with Java/Swing and it was pretty nice to work with, custom widgets and all:
https://movq.de/v/de26d5edb3/s.png
I wouldnāt dare doing this with GTK.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Canāt tell if serious or not ā because Iām actually considering this. š
And maybe I should go back to using GUI designers. Havenāt used those since the Visual Basic days. š¤ It wasnāt pretty, but you got results very quickly and efficiently.
(When I switched to Linux, I quickly got stuck with GTK and that only had Glade, which wasnāt super great at the time, so I didnāt start using it ⦠and then I never questioned that decision ā¦)
Theming on Qt6 is a bit unusual (you have to install qt6ct and then set an environment variable for every Qt program?), but at least pcmanfm-qt doesnāt look like brain damage anymore now. š¤ (Except thereās no darkmode. What is this, 1980?)
@prologic@twtxt.net Hmm, Iāll have to take a look. Appears to be Go only, doesnāt it?
Iām not quite sold yet on the idea of āimmediate modeā GUIs. š¤
@prologic@twtxt.net Such as? š¤
There are no really good GUI toolkits for Linux, are there?
Theyāre either slow (like GTK4, Qt6), donāt support Wayland (like Tk), and/or unmaintained (like GTK2 and many others).
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Nothing special, just fooling around in corporate chats. š¤Ŗ
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org (⦠I am making a Zalgo Generator in Python right now, because I need it for something else ⦠š¤£)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Theyāre seriously telling us at work: āCan it be AIād? Do it, donāt waste time!ā Shit like that is the result. (Whatās this weird gray triangle in the bottom right corner?)
@arne@uplegger.eu Reicht, wenn die Kinder lernen, wie Arbeit und Disziplin geht. https://movq.de/v/e92f4b59ec/capitalism.mp4
Just FTR, in case this wasnāt obvious, the āright to repairā (if there ever is one) needs to be more than just āyouāre legally allowed to repair stuffā.
I just fixed this thing by replacing two capacitors. Great, but this was an absolute shitshow and it took several days. So many obstacles, everythingās tiny, connectors glued together, ⦠It worked in the end, but I was so close to giving up.
Being legally allowed to do something is basically worthless if itās not feasible to actually do it.
@prologic@twtxt.net Ah, I see. Yeah, you might be right. (Still a fragile process due to the general AI wonkiness, but it can help to some degree, yes.)
@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, although I have a feeling that speech recognition or other means of entering text could be better and much less computationally intensive. š¤
GTK2 about to be removed from the official Arch repos: https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/thread/2BDHYLEFSYQBDTMUOZT5J6AFTA5M3FO6/
Itāll probably all be dropped to the AUR, so I can build this myself, because I still have some stuff that depends on it (and will never receive further updates).
This was a great read, btw. š If you liked Event Horizon, this is for you. Iām gonna get her other two scifi books as well, thatās for sure.
@prologic@twtxt.net No pressure! This is meant to be fun. š
Fuck me sideways, trying to repair stuff that isnāt meant to be repaired is such a pain. So many pointless obstacles.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, lots of people are welcoming this change, saying they are relieved that there are fewer puzzles. And ngl, I, too, have been very exhausted at the end of the month. Itās a lot of fun and I loved it each time, but yeah, it can be exhausting.
Der ganze Vorgang ist archetypisch für die seit Jahrzehnten völlig ohne Not stattfindende politische Selbstverzwergung Europas.
A comment on heise about the recent AWS outage.
(Too bad thereās no good translation for the great word āSelbstverzwergungā.)
Iām paraphrasing: Europe (and other regions) depend on US IT services, a lot, without an actual need. We saw AWS, Google, and Microsoft build large datacenters and then we thought āwelp, shit, nothing we can do about that, guess weāll just be an AWS customer from now on.ā Nobody really went ahead and built German/European alternatives. And now we completely depend on the US for lots of our stuff.
The article even claims that thereās now a shortage of sysadmins in the EU? Iām not so sure. But Iād welcome it, makes my job more secure. š¤£
Hosting services, datacenters, software, everything, itās all US stuff. Why do we accept this, why not build alternatives ā¦
Are we some of the only people in the world that realize how fucking dumb all this Internet-connect shit⢠really is?
Yeah, but donāt ask me why that is. Iāve never gotten a satisfying answer when I talk to people who hype this kind of stuff. (I mean just normal tech people, not CEOs or something.) They just shrug it off and/or think that my concerns are paranoid. š¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hm, that might actually be (partially) true. Some external CD drives (without such a weight) start to spin/wiggle when the drive spins up and down ⦠Although I guess thatās not really the case for Audio CDs as they are run at a fixed low RPM value, I think. š¤
@prologic@twtxt.net That sounds horrible. š I wouldnāt want to own such a car. (My plan is not to buy a new car after my current one finally broke down entirely.)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org First time I heard about eCall. I donāt think I like this. 𫤠Feels like another attempt at going for complete surveillance. Yes, yes, itās about āsecurityā/āsafetyā ⦠it always is.
Advent of Code will be different this year:
There will only be 12 puzzles, i.e. only December 1 to December 12. This might make it more interesting for some people, because itās (probably) less work and a lower chance of people getting burned out. š¤
Personally, Iāll probably stretch it out over 24 days. Giving myself more time to solve each puzzle and I really want this event to last the entire month. š
Maybe this makes it more interesting for some people around here as well?
Haha, beds āstopped workingā due to that outage? š¤Ŗ
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah. The actual services donāt run on AWS, apparently, but often itās just the login service?! The whole Atlassian suite was ādownā today because you couldnāt log in. But if you already were logged in, it wasnāt much a problem.
jenny.vim?
@bender@twtxt.net I think youāve asked for that a while ago. š
Does that diff actually help? Donāt you have to use A (instead of i) anyway? š¤
That was a very non-fun day at work.
Weāre not using AWS directly, but soooooooooooooooo much other stuff does.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Bwahaha. š
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thatās from a radio / CD-player thingy that someone in my family gave me so that I can try to repair it. (Indeed, some capacitors have blown up. But if that doesnāt fix it, I donāt know what to do. š )
Thereās nothing on the other side. This really is just a block of metal that acts as a weight.
You just gotta love products with articial weights in them, because they would āfeel cheapā otherwise.
https://movq.de/v/c5dcc25bc9/weight.jpg
Also, that red stuff on those connectors might be glue? To make it harder to disconnect them?
@dce@hashnix.club Same, Iām not quite sure what you mean. š¤
@prologic@twtxt.net So you love @bender@twtxt.net very much? 𤣠How does speech recognition work for you? š¤
š¶ ⦠GƤsteklo, GƤsteklo, ja, das macht die GƤste froh ⦠š¶
@arne@uplegger.eu Wer mir mit Werbung im Buch kommt, hat verschissen. š Hatte ich kürzlich auch (in einem Roman von 2025), da wurde immer wieder sehr auffƤllig eine bestimmte LokalitƤt erwƤhnt. Ganz am Ende habā ich dann gesehen, dass auf den letzten paar Seiten diese LokalitƤt nochmal explizit einen āFlyerā platziert hatte, das war also durchaus ein Werbedeal.
Nervt stark. Ich habā schon für das Buch gezahlt, da will ich nicht noch āangeworbenā werden. Dann machā lieber das Buch leicht teurer oder setzā einen Spendenaufruf rein, wenn die Finanzen so knapp sind. š¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ⦠der Bremsschlumpf ⦠š https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiblockiersystem&curid=22921&diff=53690119&oldid=53690088
@arne@uplegger.eu Joa, ān Vierteljahr, dann biste durch, oder? š
(āStahlratteā, uffpuh, welch Wort. š )
@dce@hashnix.club Arch is the most stress-free OS Iāve ever run (I last reinstalled it 14 years ago, only rolling updates since then) ā but to be honest, I sometimes wonder what role my general choice of software plays. I mostly run minimalistic software or programs that I wrote myself. I guess that greatly reduces the chance of breakage. š¤
@bender@twtxt.net Wait, wait, wait, thatās the chance to post this GIF!
Again, lots of flies now. There werenāt that many in the last few months, but now theyāre everywhere. Thereās not really much that I can do and spiderbro canāt keep up with them, either. š
Everything in the realm of āsmartphonesā is such an incomprehensible clusterfuck. I want to throw this thing out the window.
And this fucking WhatsApp ⦠jfc.
@bender@twtxt.net I only know two songs, to be honest, but yeah, she can be quite good. š
I donāt care much for the video, but damn, that is one catchy song. š¶ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko70cExuzZM
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Indeed. š