Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?
@david@collantes.us How much of a computer does it have to be? Would a ZimaBoard do the trick? I donāt have a wife, so I wouldnāt know any better š
How about storing the contents of the twtxt.txt file in TXT DNS records? :-P Like so:
dig +short txt poem.netbros.com | sed 's/[\" ]//g' | base64 -d
@prologic@twtxt.net shut that down, man! Iāll give you a nickel for it! š¤
1/4 to mean "first out of four".
@bender@twtxt.net I try to avoid editing. I guess I would write 5/4, 6/4, etc, and hopefully my audience would be sympathetic to my failing.
Anyway, I donāt think my eccentric decision to number my twts in the style of other social media platforms is the only context where someone might write ¼ not meaning a quarter. E.g. January 4, to Americans.
Iām happy to keep overthinking this for as long as you are :-P
@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net Iām not exactly asking yarnd to change. If you are okay with the way it displayed my twts, then by all means, leave it as is. I hope you wonāt mind if I continue to write things like 1/4 to mean āfirst out of fourā.
What has text/markdown got to do with this? I donāt think Markdown says anything about replacing 1/4 with ¼, or other similar transformations. Itās not needed, because ¼ is already a unicode character that can simply be directly inserted into the text file.
Whatās wrong with my original suggestion of doing the transformation before the text hits the twtxt.txt file? @prologic@twtxt.net, I think it would achieve what you are trying to achieve with this content-type thing: if someone writes 1/4 on a yarnd instance or any other client that wants to do this, it would get transformed, and other clients simply wouldnāt do the transformation. Every client that supports displaying unicode characters, including Jenny, would then display ¼ as ¼.
Alternatively, if you prefer yarnd to pretty-print all twts nicely, even ones from simpler clients, thatās fine too and you donāt need to change anything. My 1/4 -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isnāt worth overthinking.
So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter@darch.dkās Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!
Spent some time cleaning up my AoC code to get ready for December 1st. Anyone else doing it this year? @prologic@twtxt.net we have to setup a new team each year?
š PR to propose Feed Format Extension ā Request for comment š
@prologic@twtxt.net Iām not a yarnd user, so it doesnāt matter a whole lot to me, but FWIW Iām not especially keen on changing how I format my twts to work around yarndās quirks.
I wonder if this kind of postprocessing would fit better between composing (via yarndās UI) and publishing. So, if a yarnd user types ¼, it could get changed to ¼ in the twtxt.txt file for everyone to see, not just people reading through yarnd. But when I type ¼, meaning first out of four, as a non-yarnd user, the meaning wouldnāt get corrupted. I can always type ¼ directly if thatās what I really intend.
(This twt might be easier to understand if you read it without any transformations :-P)
Anyway, again, Iām not a yarnd user, so do what you will, just know you might not be seeing exactly what I meant.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de iāve wondered the same thing.. dansup can be pretty erratic and i donāt really trust the guy. thankfully (at least from my perspective) heās not the only game in town. though i think going UI-first is kind of jumping the gun. the fediverse doesnāt really have the infrastructure in place to support video publishing at the scale that a tiktok user might expect. based on some of dansups statements regarding palestine, iām sure its partially an effort to control what kind of content makes it into fediās tiktok streams for the first while.
@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net Hallucinating invisible pedestrians, great application!
@sorenpeter@darch.dk Iāve been using weechat for a while then when I started learning my way around Emacs I switched to Circe ⦠a couple months later I setup ZNC, rolled with it for some time but wasnāt sure if I wanted to stick with it. Now Iām mainly using TheLounge and do find it convenient accessing it from anywhere. but quite honestly, I donāt have a preference.
@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, sorry about that, I shouldnāt have put something like that out there in the fist place. It started as a completely different twit then I got overwhelmed noticing that I may have became the exact same thing I despise the most š¤¦
@prologic@twtxt.net yeah short Nick is going to be unique enough. There is always olong Nick that adds the domain for differentiation.
@sorenpeter@darch.dk I run Weechat headless on a VM and mostly connect via mobile or dwsktop. I use the android client or gliwing bear. Work blocks all comms on their always on MitM VPN so I cant in office anymore. So I just use mobile.
@slashdot@feeds.twtxt.net Ugh, do we really need more brainrot, even if it is more open? š
301 Moved Permanently redirect(s) for https://dev.twtxt.net/ and all relevant pages to the new domain https://twtxt.dev š
@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Yes š¤
@bender@twtxt.net True, Iām just not sure we can have it both way? š¤ I can turn smartypants off, but I do seem to recall you wanted it on š¤£
@bender@twtxt.net Hehe! Iām flattered.
@prologic@twtxt.net I wrote ¼ (one slash four) by which I meant āthe first out of fourā. twtxt.net is showing it as ¼, a single character that IMO doesnāt have that same meaning (it means 0.25). Similarly, ¾ got replaced with ¾ in another twt. Itās not a big deal. It just looks a little wrong, especially beside the 2/4 and 4/4 in my other two twts.
V: pattern itself is quite good because you can do quite a lot of powerful things with selected text.
@prologic@twtxt.net Just gave this one a try to update my twtxt.txt file with a proper # follow = ... list! š
š FYI: Iāve put in place 301 Moved Permanently redirect(s) for https://dev.twtxt.net/ and all relevant pages to the new domain https://twtxt.dev š
@prologic@twtxt.net One could argue twtxt.netās display formatting is a little over-eager here.
@prologic@twtxt.net that should be right
Thatās very sad⦠Btw twtxt is more hardly to spam because of bad discovery. So you can only spam to your followers. Did you really want abandon best method of microblogging?
@sorenpeter@darch.dk Awesome! Iāll dig in as soon as I come back from my late night stroll
After the behaviour of a clearly very angry feed author over the past few days, Iām very tempted to give up on Twtxt and allow it to go back to being dead. What really is the point of building and supporting a way to exchange little pieces of text with one another in a completely decentralised way, if youāre just going to keep humping up against such hostility? I donāt know why I do this anymore.
After the behaviour of a clearly very angry feed author over the past few days, Iām very tempted to give up on Twtxt and allow it to go back to being dead. What really is the point of building and supporting a way to exchange little pieces of text with one another in a completely decentralized way, if youāre just going to keep bumping up against such hostility? I donāt know why I do this anymore.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de How hard would it be to implement something like (#<2024-10-25T17:15:50Z https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt>)in jenny as a replacement for (#twthash) and have it not care about if is http(s) or a g-protocol?
@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Speed is an issue for the client software, not the format itself, but yes I agree that it makes the most sense to append post to the end of the file. Iām referring to the definition that itās the first url = in the file that is the one that has to be used for the twthash computation, which is a too arbitrary way of defining something that breaks treading time and time again. And this is the case for not using url+date+message = twthash.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL, you are late! :-P Stores around started selling Christmasās decorations early September. Like, wow! Usually the earliest is after Halloween, more often after Thanksgiving.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de interesting! So, what would the fix be, in this case, do you know? Aware of this, @prologic@twtxt.net?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de, having an issue fetching a twtxt context. I am getting:
Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://txt.sour.is ...
Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://twtxt.net ...
Twt could not be found
Yet, the twtxt is there: https://twtxt.net/twt/mowsvgq. Bug, or something else?
avatar field has a #20240102 at the end: To trick yarnd into reloading it.
What if i want to delete avatar? Im deleted avatar meta field but still see avatar on twtxt.net
Simplified twtxt - I want to suggest some dogmas or commandments for twtxt, from where we can work our way back to how to implement different feature like replies/treads:
Itās a text file, so you must be able to write it by hand (ie. no app logic) and read by eye. If you edit a post you change the content not the timestamp. Otherwise it will be considered a new post.
The order of lines in a twtxt.txt must not hold any significant. The file is a container and each line an atomic piece of information. You should be able to run
sorton a twtxt.txt and it should still work.Transport protocol should not matter, as long as the file served is the same. Http and https are preferred, so it is suggested that feed served via Gopher or Gemini also provide http(s).
Do we need more commandments?
@prologic@twtxt.net Why does twtxt.net still show my old avatar?
@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Welcome to the twtāverse š
@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt finally someone read my blogpost ;)
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Thank you, and yes I got more on my websites https://darch.dk/vj/ and https://algorave.dk/videos/
@prologic huh? looks like someone flooding twtxt
THE LAST HUMAN POST ON THIS FEED IS MORE THAN FOUR YEARS OLD. PERHAPS TWTXT CLIENTS SHOULD THEN FETCH THE FEED VERY RARELY.
@sorenpeter ās webmentions uses this trick: http://darch.dk/mentions-twtxt
Huh. I had long forgotten about text fragment URLs. Seems relevant for linking to discussions around linking to individual twtxt posts. https://alfy.blog/2024/10/19/linking-directly-to-web-page-content.html
@Phys_org@feeds.twtxt.net ā¦which will be entirely ignored when the š© hits the šŖ
āInterest grows in geoengineeringā because pursuing the obvious, clearest, most direct solutionāreducing fossil fuel useāis for some reason off the table. That is already an unethical arrangement. Pasting an ethical framework on top doesnāt change the rotten situation at its core.
@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net Pusher can detect own product. Film at 11.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Although my recent breakage/down time was more of a result of human error than it is something to blame on software itself, I do get your point; and will highly probably end up going the same route in the near future. Itās just that in order to south my forever itching curiosity, I have to learn and try some things first.
vis "language as a user interface" paradigm. :waves: Hello from a happy Kakoune user!
@asquare@asquare.srht.site Hi back at you!! š and nice to meet you!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I didnāt realize elves were considered malicious either.
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@prologic@twtxt.net Nice. My muscle memory defaults to visual block mode then insert across rows for this circumstance. Itās funny how you do things so often without thinking about a different way of doing it.