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In-reply-to » I don’t think calling the various PHP files making up “Timeline” a “Yarn pod” is accurate.

@bender@twtxt.net 😆 Would calling it a Single user Twtxt "Yarn Pod **Like**" software help you sleep better at night? And just in case things are not clear here, I’m being sarcastic (well, kinda…) and not trying to gaslight anyone. Think of my comment as Bromance or something like that LOL.

But seriously, Just like any UNIX-Like system to Unix™, as in non of them are UNIX™, but each of them is providing more or less similar experience and re-implementing what once was parts of “UNIX™ software” their own (more or less better) ways. Timeline is Yarn™ Pod like, (my personal take on the word pod is: “an instance of XYZ software acting an escape POD from X-BS for… ABC reasons.”) providing more or less of a similar experience, implementing some of Yarn.social Extensions, trying to add in some more …etc.

Otherwise, I don’t see the Yarn pod mention as some kind of malicious manoeuvre, but more of a tribute to what (might have) sparked inspiration for creating Timeline? Also, our friend @sorenpeter@darch.dk here has got a valid reason for using PHP (#tms7aka) so let’s let’s put our unease towards the language itself aside and maybe just help however/as much as we can in order to make internet (the World?) a better place.

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In-reply-to » next up, decomissioning this nice ass laptop so i can sell it on ebay and buy a sword.

but for real, i really want that sword and I’m perfectly content running my daily dev stuff using an rpi. i actually used to do client work on an old rpi laptop kit, i only stopped using that baby because the battery controller let the battery go flat.

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its important to see clearly: the rejection of mastodon for bluesky is not a rejection of the desire to be free of our corporate overlords; its a rejection of white bros controlling digital spaces. sit with that

eugen and his interlocutors have had immense power with which to challenge twitter but their racial and cultural and ideological insularity prevented them from using it https://alaskan.social/@seachanger/113500023546622076

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In-reply-to » i am working on very smol deployments, where a server may use two or so replicated sqlite databases instead of a db server like postgres to seamlessly move from single to multi-node arrangements as needed. there is a clear performance limit here, but the goal is not to serve a huge number of clients. just to do as much as possible with a small number of useful components that can be upgraded to handle up to medium size workloads, without difficult data conversions or migrations. scaling beyond that point should be done via federation.

for example, ejabberd, redka, and litefs. all using sqlite+litefs for their database needs allows agents to communicate over xmpp, matrix, mqtt, and sip. other applications can use sqlite for storage or speak the redis protocol to redka. ejabberd can also handle file uploads, static file publishing, identity, and various other web application services. when scaling, litefs integrates with consul to manage replication which grants the network access to service disco, encrypted mesh networking, and various other features that can be used to build secure service grids. ejabberd and redka can be scaled to multiple nodes that coordinate over the litefs replication protocol without any changes to the db storage config. other components can be configured to plug into this framework fairly easily as well. we keep the network config fairly simple by linking nodes together with yggdrasil to flatten the address space and then linking app nodes together using consul to provide secure routing for the local grid service. yggdrasil also offers utility for buliding federated networks in a similarly flat address space, for more secure communications i2p is also available in yggdrasil mode. minibase is wonderful, and we have not even started to talk about secure IoT.

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i am working on very smol deployments, where a server may use two or so replicated sqlite databases instead of a db server like postgres to seamlessly move from single to multi-node arrangements as needed. there is a clear performance limit here, but the goal is not to serve a huge number of clients. just to do as much as possible with a small number of useful components that can be upgraded to handle up to medium size workloads, without difficult data conversions or migrations. scaling beyond that point should be done via federation.

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Wanted to share that we’re so proud of our six year old son; after taking skating lessons himself, he taught me and my wife how to stop on skates today. He was so proud about that he could teach us something good. Enjoyed also playing table tennis with him in the park, even-though it got windy, we had fun and didn’t give up trying to have a decent game. And at the guided tour at the old hot-metal plant in Duisburg yesterday, he asked the best questions and could be the guide’s assistant - holding the flashlight.

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🔥 ATTENTION: I have really bad news folks 😢

Today, (just this morning in AEST) I accidentally nuke my pod (twtxt.net). I keep backups, but unfortunately the recovery point objective (RTP) is at worst a month! 🤦‍♂️ 😱 (the recovery time objective is around ~30m or so, restoring can take a while due to the size of the archive and index) – For those that are unfamiliar with these terms, they essentially relate to “how much data loss can occur” (RPO) and “how quickly you can restore the system” (RTO).

This pod (twtxt.net) is back up and online. However we’ve last the last ~5 days worth of posts y’all may have made on your feeds (for those that use this pod).

I’m so sorry 😞

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Portion of the modified Twitter TOS that goes into effect today (it’s on right now), as summarised (ironically) by Google’s Gemini:

“In simpler terms, this means that when you share your content (like text, images, or videos) on the service, you’re giving the company permission to use it in various ways. They can copy, modify, distribute, and even use it to train their AI models. This includes sharing your content with others and using it on other platforms. You won’t be paid for this, but using the service itself is considered enough compensation.”

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In-reply-to » @prologic Nah. twtxt + Mastodon is enough social media for me. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net Same here… Twtxt and Mastodon are more than enough for me. I used to have a BSky account with my own domain name as a handle (which I ended up deleting after a while) and even taught about running my own PDS and the whole nine yards but, it didn’t feel like it was worth the hassle.

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In-reply-to » Numbers are hard. I just almost accidentally sent 33k€ to someone via bank transfer, because the banking website interpreted 334.90 as 33490,00. 😬 This is germany, so it wants a comma, not a dot …

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, the Swiss and C++ programmers use apostrophes. :-) My grandpa had an electronic desk calculator that also used some kind of apostrophes as the thousands separator on its cool display. Maybe it consisted of Nixie tubes, can’t remember anymore.

I think non-breaking spaces are preferred nowadays to avoid the confusion.

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Major polluters absent from climate summit + 3 more stories
Scientists warn of the potential collapse of the Atlantic current; major polluters skip UN climate talks amidst climate finance discussions; ADB boosts climate finance to $7.2 billion with US and Japan support; Israel fails to meet US deadline for increased humanitarian aid to Gaza. ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » Lol. "Lighty Encrypted" https://www.pcmag.com/news/hot-topic-breach-confirmed-millions-of-credit-cards-email-addresses-exposed

Oof, is it any wonder some of us don’t want to just give out our info online willy-nilly.

Also that credit card ‘encryption’ will likely land that company in very hot water, no doubt far away from PCI DSS requirements.

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In-reply-to » Righto, @eapl.me, ta for the writeup. Here we go. :-)

@eapl.me@eapl.me here are my replies (somewhat similar to Lyse’s and James’)

  1. Metadata in twts: Key=value is too complicated for non-hackers and hard to write by hand. So if there is a need then we should just use #NSFS or the alt-text file in markdown image syntax ![NSFW](url.to/image.jpg) if something is NSFW

  2. IDs besides datetime. When you edit a twt then you should preserve the datetime if location-based addressing should have any advantages over content-based addressing. If you change the timestamp the its a new post. Just like any other blog cms.

  3. Caching, Yes all good ideas, but that is more a task for the clients not the serving of the twtxt.txt files.

  4. Discovery: User-agent for discovery can become better. I’m working on a wrapper script in PHP, so you don’t need to go to Apaches log-files to see who fetches your feed. But for other Gemini and gopher you need to relay on something else. That could be using my webmentions for twtxt suggestion, or simply defining an email metadata field for letting a person know you follow their feed. Interesting read about why WebMetions might be a bad idea. Twtxt being much simple that a full featured IndieWeb sites, then a lot of the concerns does not apply here. But that’s the issue with any open inbox. This is hard to solve without some form of (centralized or community) spam moderation.

  5. Support more protocols besides http/s. Yes why not, if we can make clients that merge or diffident between the same feed server by multiples URLs

  6. Languages: If the need is big then make a separate feed. I don’t mind seeing stuff in other langues as it is low. You got translating tool if you need to know whats going on. And again when there is a need for easier switching between posting to several feeds, then it’s about building clients with a UI that makes it easy. No something that should takes up space in the format/protocol.

  7. Emojis: I’m not sure what this is about. Do you want to use emojis as avatar in CLI clients or it just about rendering emojis?

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making my own browser framework that can use something like librewolf as a web renderer and other graphical components and runtimes for other protocols. though I think that means that i’ll be retiring tomo-el-fuego in favor of a different runtime architecture. there’s a lot that I like about inferno, but modernizing it enough to actually use anywhere is another story. I doubt this is the end of my infernal experiments, but I can only do so much at a time innit.

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In-reply-to » I've been thinking of a few improvements for the next generation of twtxt spec, let me know if these are useful or interesting :) https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version

Righto, @eapl.me@eapl.me, ta for the writeup. Here we go. :-)

Metadata on individual twts are too much for me. I do like the simplicity of the current spec. But I understand where you’re coming from.

Numbering twts in a feed is basically the attempt of generating message IDs. It’s an interesting idea, but I reckon it is not even needed. I’d simply use location based addressing (feed URL + ‘#’ + timestamp) instead of content addressing. If one really wanted to, one could hash the feed URL and timestamp, but the raw form would actually improve disoverability and would not even require a richer client. But the majority of twtxt users in the last poll wanted to stick with content addressing.

yarnd actually sends If-Modified-Since request headers. Not only can I observe heaps of 304 responses for yarnds in my access log, but in Cache.FetchFeeds(…) we can actually see If-Modified-Since being deployed when the feed has been retrieved with a Last-Modified response header before: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/commit/98eee5124ae425deb825fb5f8788a0773ec5bdd0/internal/cache.go#L1278

Turns out etags with If-None-Match are only supported when yarnd serves avatars (https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/commit/98eee5124ae425deb825fb5f8788a0773ec5bdd0/internal/handlers.go#L158) and media uploads (https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/commit/98eee5124ae425deb825fb5f8788a0773ec5bdd0/internal/media_handlers.go#L71). However, it ignores possible etags when fetching feeds.

I don’t understand how the discovery URLs should work to replace the User-Agent header in HTTP(S) requests. Do you mind to elaborate?

Different protocols are basically just a client thing.

I reckon it’s best to just avoid mixing several languages in one feed in the first place. Personally, I find it okay to occasionally write messages in other languages, but if that happens on a more regularly basis, I’d definitely create a different feed for other languages.

Isn’t the emoji thing “just” a client feature? So, feed do not even have to state any emojis. As a user I’d configure my client to use a certain symbol for feed ABC. Currently, I can do a similar thing in tt where I assign colors to feeds. On the other hand, what if a user wants to control what symbol should be displayed, similar to the feed’s nick? Hmm. But still, my terminal font doesn’t even render most of emojis. So, Unicode boxes everywhere. This makes me think it should actually be a only client feature.

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i do kinda like htmx, but i might end up going my own way with my own similar library that matches better with my use patterns which are really not compatible with any extra scripting. so less flexible, but possible more powerful in the end.

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So let’s recap… We’ve got Putin waging war against Ukraine. Netanyahu waging war against Palestine. Iran getting involved. Kim Jong Un helping Russia and sending soldiers as resources for Putin’s war. And now Trump has won a 2nd term in the US where we’ll see him scrap EU sanctions and fines against US companies violating EU laws and what else? 🤔

What dafuq is wrong with this world?! 🌍

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In-reply-to » Went on a really cool walk today after the sun came out this arvo. Just 11°C and a fair bit of wind required a scarf and beanie. I love the autumn colors a lot and never tire of looking at them.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Thanks mate! It just occurred to me the other night that my alt choices are not the best. I should probably fix them.

This also reminds me of a JS snippet my mate wrote for navigation in browsers that don’t support incrementing numbers in the URLs. I’m using Tridactyl in Firefox and can Ctrl+A/Ctrl+X myself through albums with properly named files.

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In-reply-to » Wouldn't you rather have work and private seperated? Any thought behind this decission? I like tags, like Gmail does it. I still think mail needs a big rethink. It's too prominent in life, to be this archaic.

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I have separate mail boxes for private and work, but flattened both to have a simpler structure. For work, where we use Outlook, I am using categories for organising the mails and privately I am using Vivaldi’s labels system. The main idea is to use search and grouping through dynamic saved searches instead of static folders.

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In-reply-to » So, I’m forced to use WhatsApp now. Someone told me: “Hey, I’ve been doing $thing, check my status!” Okay, fine, I open that and it shows a photo.

Lol, who use stories in IM? It’s crazy! Im only use for talking with parents and academy

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So, I’m forced to use WhatsApp now. Someone told me: “Hey, I’ve been doing $thing, check my status!” Okay, fine, I open that and it shows a photo.

Then, while looking at that photo, it’s suddenly gone. No, not gone – there are several photos and it switched automatically to the next one. The timeout appears to be four seconds.

JFC, I’m getting too old for this. Let me look at the damn photo! Don’t rush me! 😂

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

Thats quite good. I’m just thinking of how to keep things simple without needing databases (as a client app), for now it uses cache.. Would be great if a follower would have an AP-layerI over a twtxt and just fetch from the most recent timestamp known in my cache.

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In-reply-to » So, we need a computer for house (that is, wife and I) usage. We have none, we rely on our pocket computers. I would like to fill the void with the recently announced Mac mini. What technique could I use with an already stressed out wife, to accomplish this goal? 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net hahahaha! If only was that easy. Wife is pretty stressed out at work with new duties. At the same time people are getting laid off. So, it truly is a dilemma, and something that must be done carefully. I can wait. I waited this long, I can wait a bit more. Maybe and end-of-year gift for both of us?

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In-reply-to » Three days from today, towards the end of the day, we in the US will have an idea of who the nation's presiding person will be for the next four years. In the 32 years I have lived here, I have never been more worried about an election outcome.

@xuu@txt.sour.is done, and done, and done. The three of us dropped our mail-in ballots, and received confirmation they are counted. Living in a red state (well, kid said it is more like purple now) makes me sad, and mad, but I have done what I can—and that includes explaining things to others, and encouraging them to vote.

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In-reply-to » Three days from today, towards the end of the day, we in the US will have an idea of who the nation's presiding person will be for the next four years. In the 32 years I have lived here, I have never been more worried about an election outcome.

Unfortunately the US media has been making it a nail biter on purpose when in reality it is not. Get out and vote in numbers that cannot be denied. And then get everyone else around you to vote also.

Maybe one day enough states will make it into the NaPo InterCo to finally put the EC to rest.

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Three days from today, towards the end of the day, we in the US will have an idea of who the nation’s presiding person will be for the next four years. In the 32 years I have lived here, I have never been more worried about an election outcome.

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In-reply-to » @cuaxolotl This is largely by accident and not on purpose:

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m grateful for this accident. I find browsing twtxt.net useful even though I don’t have an account there. I do it when I can’t use Jenny because I only have my phone, or if I want to see messages I might have missed. I know it’s not guaranteed to catch everything, but it’s pretty good, even if it’s not intentional.

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In-reply-to » So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter's Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I use Jenny to add to a local copy of my twtxt.txt file, and then manually push it to my web servers. I prefer timestamps to end with “Z” rather than “+00:00” so I modified Jenny to use that format. I mostly follow conversations using Jenny, but sometimes I check twtxt.net, which could catch twts I missed.

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