If [you take] a look at how APLers communicate when they have ideas, you see code all the time, all day long. The APL community is the only one I’ve seen that regularly can write complete code and talk about it fluently on a whiteboard between humans without hand waving. Even my beloved Scheme programming language cannot boast this. When working with humans on a programming task, almost no one uses their programming languages that primary communication method between themselves and other humans outside of the presence of a computer. That signals to me that they are not, in fact, natural, expedient tools for communicating ideas to other humans. The best practices utilized in most programming languages are, instead, attempts to ameliorate the situation to make the code as tractable and as manageable as possible, but they do not, primarily, represent a demonstration of the naturalness of those languages to human communication. — aaron hsu

using borg over s3fs might have been a bad idea?

Someone brought us pie for Pi Day. 💯

Hrm, that would’ve been csh probably, or tcsh if you were lucky. But Plan 9 uses rc, which is so lovely I use it everywhere.

i wonder if i can replace my uses of haproxy with iptables 🤔 generally its a yes, but i do need some SNI sniffing in there to direct the streams at the right hosts in yggdrasil.

No, totally not useful. 🤣 I mean, the finger protocol is pretty trivial, and it’d be fun to add, but doesn’t replace anything you’re doing.

This was macOS. I don’t really use gnu. Of course, it’s also not on Plan 9, the system I know best.

I have been using Unix for 25+ years and I just learned about the status character in shells (often ^T). Huh.

it was glorious and they left us with Haiku as a parting gift.

@thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io @jlj@twt.nfld.uk in old school terminal jargon the ^H means control H or the sequence used in some terminals to indicate backspace. The “joke” is that the term failed to interpret it correctly and you can see the partially typed word before they changed it.

very happy to see progress on this front, i would love to use this as an opprotunity to go over my nawat learning materials again and copy them into a textual format using the new maya unicode allocations when they are ready

i have but one use of feddy per day, and i used mine this morning just to waste time

Hey @xuu@txt.sour.is another mention that didn’t render ☝️

@thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io Hey! It’s easy. Just install the twt CLI with something like:

go get github.com/jointwt/twtxt/cmd/twt/...

Then use it in some hooks/scripts to post some content to your Pod.

slowly making progress learning how to use mk to build my gem capsule

The keys that have some use would be nick, url/feedurl, avatar, lang

💁‍♂️ If you’re ever on a UNIX machine of some kind without any useful networking utilities like ip or ifconfig, fear now! You can view the network topology of the Kernel by just doing:

cat /proc/net/fib_trie

😲 #Linux #Tips

@hxii@0xff.nu There is another twter that uses !<wikiword wikiaddr> or !wikiword for their wiki intigrations.

Mirroring my private sites on the IPFS network. Generating my static site using 11ty

@prologic@twtxt.net @thewismit@blog.thewismit.com () Ya I get that error a lot. I mostly use the web on mobile as a result.

@prologic@twtxt.net @thewismit not sure.. im using Caddy instead of nginix

@prologic@twtxt.net that would be an interesting idea. I think your current spec of using an SMTP proto is probably best for DM.

but having a federation of IRC servers would be interesting for realtime twt propagation.

@prologic@twtxt.net sounds about right. I tend to try to build my own before pulling in libs. learn more that way. I was looking at using it as a way to build my twt mirroring idea. and testing the lex parser with a wide ranging corpus to find edge cases. (the pgp signed feeds for one)

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah it reads a seed file. I’m using mine. it scans for any mention links and then scans them recursively. it reads from http/s or gopher. i don’t have much of a db yet.. it just writes to disk the feed and checks modified dates.. but I will add a db that has hashs/mentions/subjects and such.

I just built a poc search engine / crawler for Twtxt. I managed to crawl this pod (twtxt.net) and a couple of others (sorry @etux@twt.u53.us and @xuu@txt.sour.is I used your pods in the tests too!). So far so good. I might keep going with this and see what happens 😀

@prologic@twtxt.net sure. I don’t use signal much because I have to disclose my personal phone. Telegram? https://www.t.me/xypheri

@adi@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net using regex. which can be a rather inexact science ;)

@prologic@twtxt.net I see them is why I ask. like here #cwqmygq they use both hashtag and bangtag?

@prologic@twtxt.net have you tried using the macos github build environment? looks like they have a windows one too.

more or less. :D
what are you using to ci/cd? i dont see a travisci/circleci/etc in the repo.. i can put something together to bump the patch level on master branch merges.

@prologic@twtxt.net I use https://key.sour.is/id/me@sour.is

I would need an out-of-band way to verify your public key’s fingerprint though 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net Ok.. so using NaCL boxes. yeah its just a combo of using secretbox with a generated key/nonce. and then using the pubkey box to encrypt the key/nonce for each device.

@prologic@twtxt.net def would be a wider discussion on preventing the pod from adding its own key to a users device list. Or using device keys to authenticate instead of user/pass.

@prologic@twtxt.net device gets the cypertext and uses it’s device key to decrypt one of the keys and then decrypts the cypertext.

i am guessing you are using some form of webmention to notify the target of the DM? which loads it into a store for the user to read?

@prologic@twtxt.net I see.. so using an ec25519 key as identity? and some kind of certificate to define the location of a feed? or maybe a DHT like Kademlia? TwTorrent ;)

@prologic@twtxt.net My thoughts on it being if they switched from a different way of hosting the file or multiple locations for redundancy..

I have an idea of using something like SRV records where they can define weighted url endpoints to reach.

@prologic@twtxt.net just an off the wall question about hashes. why not use the time+message as it was in the original twtxt.txt file? is it because it’s just not store anyplace?

also how set in stone is using user+url? vs user@domain? the latter would mean the url could change without invalidating the hash.

@lyxal@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net yah. the service can have a flag for allowing non-TLS for development. but by default ignores.

are there some users that use alternative protos for twtxt? like ftp/gopher/dnsfs 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net looking through the drafts it looks like it actually used SRV records as recently as 2018 😵

@prologic@twtxt.net Web Key Directory: a way to self host your public key. instead of using a central system like pgp.mit.net or OpenPGP.org you have your key on a server you own.

it takes an email@address.com hashes the part before the @ and turns it into [openpgpkey.]address.com/.well-known/openpgpkey[/address.com]/<hash>

@xuu@txt.sour.is With SRV you can set what hostname to be used (and port/priority/etc)

@xuu@txt.sour.is Not too happy with WKD’s use of CNAME over SRV for discovery of openpgpkey.. That breaks using SNI pretty quick. I suppose it was setup as a temporary workaround anyhow in the RFC..

@adi @prologic@twtxt.net One reservation about using it with a small community would be the expectation that the discussions at some level stay within the circle as opposed to the internet at large.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yep! installed it yesterday. I like the simplicity of twt. I am quite happy with how little memory the pod seems to use. Mastodon and the “lightweight” Pleroma don’t work well in small VMs.

@prologic@twtxt.net it is some interesting work to decentralize all the things.. tricky part is finding tooling. i am using a self hacked version of the go openpgp library. A tool to add and remove notations would need to be local since it needs your private key.

Thinkin I might quit twtxt and gemini, tidy up a bit,just use tilde club web, or gopher.

@prologic@prologic.github.io I will probably check out twtxt.net later. Can we use it without registering for an account?

Honestly never realized before Beakerbrowser that peer-to-peer could be used to share markdown, JavaScript and html files.

https://medium.com/@waxzce/use-bashrc-d-directory-instead-of-bloated-bashrc-50204d5389ff

Finally creating PHP programs using Composer and Twig templates