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Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline… A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren’t there šŸ˜‚ even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣

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In-reply-to » @sorenpeter !! I freaking love your Timeline ... I kind of have an justified PHP phobia šŸ˜… but, I'm definitely thinking about giving it a try!

Thank you @aelaraji@aelaraji.com, I’m glad you like it. I use PHP because it’s everywhere on cheap hosting and no need for the user to log into a terminal to setup it up. Timeline is not mean to be use locally. For that I think something like twtxt2html is a better fit. (and happy to see you using simple.css on you new log page;)

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In-reply-to » On the Subject of Feed Identities; I propose the following:

So this is a great thread. I have been thinking about this too.. and what if we are coming at it from the wrong direction? Identity being tied to a given URL has always been a pain point. If i get a new URL its almost as if i have a new identity because not only am I serving at a new location but all my previous communications are broken because the hashes are all wrong.

What if instead we used this idea of signatures to thread the URLs together into one identity? We keep the URL to Hash in place. Changing that now is basically a no go. But we can create a signature chain that can link identities together. So if i move to a new URL i update the chain hosted by my primary identity to include the new URL. If i have an archived feed that the old URL is now dead, we can point to where it is now hosted and use the current convention of hashing based on the first url:

The signature chain can also be used to rotate to new keys over time. Just sign in a new key or revoke an old one. The prior signatures remain valid within the scope of time the signatures were made and the keys were active.

The signature file can be hosted anywhere as long as it can be fetched by a reasonable protocol. So say we could use a webfinger that directs to the signature file? you have an identity like frank@beans.co that will discover a feed at some URL and a signature chain at another URL. Maybe even include the most recent signing key?

From there the client can auto discover old feeds to link them together into one complete timeline. And the signatures can validate that its all correct.

I like the idea of maybe putting the chain in the feed preamble and keeping the single self contained file.. but wonder if that would cause lots of clutter? The signature chain would be something like a log with what is changing (new key, revoke, add url) and a signature of the change + the previous signature.

# chain: ADDKEY kex14zwrx68cfkg28kjdstvcw4pslazwtgyeueqlg6z7y3f85h29crjsgfmu0w 
# sig: BEGIN SALTPACK SIGNED MESSAGE. ... 
# chain: ADDURL https://txt.sour.is/user/xuu
# sig: BEGIN SALTPACK SIGNED MESSAGE. ...
# chain: REVKEY kex14zwrx68cfkg28kjdstvcw4pslazwtgyeueqlg6z7y3f85h29crjsgfmu0w
# sig: ...

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In-reply-to » Serious open (for anyone) question: what makes you follow someone on twtxt? Will you just follow anyone that you come across, simply because that someone using the "decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers" microblog?

@bender@twtxt.net On twtxt, I follow all feeds that I can find (there are some exceptions, of course). There’s so little going on in general, it hardly matters. šŸ˜…

And I just realized: Mutt’s layout helps a lot. Skimming over new twts is really easy and it’s not a big loss if there are a couple of shitpostsā„¢ in my ā€œtimelineā€. This is very different from Mastodon (both the default web UI and all clients I’ve tried), where the timeline is always huge. Posts take up a lot of space on screen. Makes me think twice if I want to follow someone or not. šŸ˜…

(I mostly only follow Hashtags on Mastodon anyway. It’s more interesting that way.)

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In-reply-to » šŸ‘‹ If y'all notice any weird quirks or UI/UX bugs of late on my pod, please let me know! šŸ™ For those that have a Javascript enabled web browser will notice (hopefully) a SPA (single page app) like experience, even in Mobile! No more full page refreshes! All this without writing a single line of Javascript (let alone React or whatever) šŸ˜… -- HTMX is pretty damn cooL! šŸ˜Ž #htmx

@prologic@twtxt.net on the the timeline with mentions filter I missing the latest mention that comes up in the mentions page.

Oh.. And you are mentioning my dev instance here šŸ˜„

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Hah 🤣 @dfaria@twtxt.net Your @dfaria.eu@dfaria.eu feed really does consume about >50% of a ā€œDiscoverā€ search with filters ā€œWithout repliesā€ and ā€œHide my postsā€. 🤣 36/2 = 18 at 25 Twts per page, that’s about ~72% of the search/view real estate you’re taking up! wow 🤩 – I’d be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.

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In-reply-to » @bendwr and I discussing something along the lines of: Media I.e: How to deal with or reduce noise from legacy feeds.

The wording can be more subtle like ā€œThis feed have not seen much activity within the last yearā€ and maybe adding a UI like I did in timeline showing time ago for all feeds

I agree that it good to clean up the Mastodon re-feeds, but it should also be okay for anyone to spin up a twtxt.txt just for syndicating they stuff from blog or what ever.

The ā€œnot receiving repliesā€ could partly be fixed by implementing a working webmentions for twtxt.txt

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In-reply-to » I've gathers my ideas about mentions for twtxt/yarn here: Webmentions vs. custom mentions spec for twtxt/yarn - HedgeDoc You are welcome to edit and comment in the doc, so our ideas are not fragment into a bunch of treads

@bender@twtxt.net you can over at http://darch.dk/timeline/conv/ba3xbfa or by looking at the raw txt https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt
I can’t help it that twtxt.net only have temporary caching ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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In-reply-to » I've gathers my ideas about mentions for twtxt/yarn here: Webmentions vs. custom mentions spec for twtxt/yarn - HedgeDoc You are welcome to edit and comment in the doc, so our ideas are not fragment into a bunch of treads

Thanks for your feedback @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org. For some reason i missed it until now. For now I have implemented endpoint discovery for #webmentions as a metadata field in the twtxt.txt like this:
# webmention = http://darch.dk/timeline/webmention

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In-reply-to » yarn should define its own federation protocol that extends the basic twtxt in ways that twtxt doesn't allow. it's time. and i've got ideas!

@shreyan@twtxt.net What do you mean when you say federation protocol?

I’m not sure we need much else. I would not even bother with encryption since other platforms does that better, and for me twtxt/yarn/timeline is for making things public

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In-reply-to » I've been thinking of how to notify someone else that you've replied to their twts.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I’m also on the e-mail wagon here. On http://darch.dk/timeline/conv/oe3howa I have added a ā€œComment via emailā€ botten if uses are not logged in. This feature could be extend to other places in the various UIs. Like we already got the ā€œDoes not follow yourā€ / ā€œFollow youā€ on the profile page in yarnd, so this detection could be used to sugget the user to email that person, when mentioning them.

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In-reply-to » New theme for yarn is up now at: https://git.mills.io/sorenpeter/darchTheme Still needs some work, but please have a go with it and hack away Media Media

@darch@twtxt.net
Getting this when trying to use it:

error executing template timeline: template: timeline:131:43: executing "twt" at <formatForDateTime>: wrong number of args for formatForDateTime: want 2 got 1

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@prologic@twtxt.net You will have to agree that always using reply (like I am doing on this one) loses everything on translation after the third or fourth replies. It simply doesn’t promote engagement. On top of that, all replies show on the timeline as well, without much—to none—context.

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