@prologic@twtxt.net Are you sure? xD … it was supposed to be a replay to another twt, but the twt hash is wrong (I think).
I really like the concept of “twt”. It’s the perfect blend of txt and twtxt. An abbreviated form. Even though it’s the name given to posts, I personally find it very nice.
#twtxt
[ ↳ Reply to twt ]
button?
I don’t think so, at least the tests I did passed. If you’re pretty sure it’s a bug, please create an issue in the repository with the specific case and I’ll investigate it.
There are 2 buttons to make replicas, one makes a replica in the thread where the twt is located (this is the one that should be used the most, as it serves a thread), the other creates a replica to a specific twt.
I’ll let you know a bit about the status: I’m just now implementing the thread screen. There you can be sure where you are. It’s a bit confusing right now, sorry. I think the client is still in alpha. When I’ve finished what I’m doing, and the direct message system, I’ll freeze development and focus on creating more tests, looking for bugs and making small visual adjustments.
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev is it me or twtxt-el generates a wrong twt hash when I use the [ ↳ Reply to twt ]
button?
among these options, 3
Although I like it more “twt”, without the dot and with a t at the end
@prologic@twtxt.net Of course you don’t notice it when yarnd only shows at most the last n messages of a feed. As an example, check out mckinley’s message from 2023-01-09T22:42:37Z. It has “[Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled]“… in it. This text in square brackets is repeated numerous times. If you search his feed for closing square bracket followed by an opening square bracket (][
) you will find a bunch more of these. It goes without question he never typed that in his feed. My client saves each twt hash I’ve explicitly marked read. A few days ago, I got plenty of apparently years old, yet suddenly unread messages. Each and every single one of them containing this repeated bracketed text thing. The only conclusion is that something messed up the feed again.
@eapl.me@eapl.me Yeah, you need some kind of storage for that. But chances are that there’s already a cache in place. Ideally, the client remembers etags or last modified timestamps in order to reduce unnecessary network traffic when fetching feeds over HTTP(S).
A newsreader without read flags would be totally useless to me. But I also do not subscribe to fire hose feeds, so maybe that’s a different story with these. I don’t know.
To me, filtering read messages out and only showing new messages is the obvious solution. No need for notifications in my opinion.
There are different approaches with read flags. Personally, I like to explicitly mark messages read or unread. This way, I can think about something and easily come back later to reply. Of course, marking messages read could also happen automatically. All decent mail clients I’ve used in my life offered even more advanced features, like delayed automatic marking.
All I can say is that I’m super happy with that for years. It works absolutely great for me. The only downside is that I see heaps of new, despite years old messages when a bug causes a feed to be incorrectly updated (https://twtxt.net/twt/tnsuifa). ;-)
Definitely something going on with replies. This one was replying to the wrong twt and even when I got clever and pasted the right hash it didn’t work.
@prologic@twtxt.net the code block is the cause of https://txt.sour.is/twt/zn2kg7q
and the second? i get POST errors when i try to submit the webform.
@mckinley@twtxt.net And there is the bracketed text duplication bug again… Actually with lots of twts. Did you edit a twt? Do you remember? /cc @prologic@twtxt.net
Well, that’s another bug: The search https://twtxt.net/search?q=%22LOOOOL%2C+great+programming+tutorial+music%22 yields the wrong hash. It should have been poyndha instead.
alert the twt police!!
I have a paper deadline coming up, so will everyone please stop writing twts for the next 48 hours, thanks.
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Sweeeeet! Just gave it a try, you’ve done a wonderful work 🫡 I wanted to replay from there but couldn’t go past the first page of the feed. It kept freezing on me and complaining about some bad Url (as mentioned on the test twt), so I’ll have to dig through my follow list and see where I effed up this time. 😅
Here’s a twt from @andros@twtxt.andros.dev ’s new version of Twtxt-el 🥳 It feels WAaaaaY better! although it freezes on me as soon as I navigate to the next page complaining about some bad url, but the chronological sorting of the feed as well as the navigation buttons (links?) are a great addition. Looking forward to the next update already! 😁 🥳🥳🥳
Ok, it’s really spam account: https://twtxt.net/twt/xu3u7zq . Damn spammers. Can you delete this?
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @prologic@twtxt.net 😆 There was something weird going on with my #Timeline instance, the text input box was visible even though I was logged out and I was able to twt from it … It has to do with cache because it wouldn’t disappear unless I whip my website’s cache from the browser.
Poke @sorenpeter@darch.dk and @eapl.me@eapl.me I have no Idea how to reproduce this.
It seems related to us poor single user pods not getting the trust to share twts.. which it seems to still untrust on restart for me.
@movq, @prologic@twtxt.net when navigating to a Yarn. If the head twt is missing then the whole thread is not accessible. It only returns an error. so i have no way to view any of the replies within the thread other than the end twt.
Or using the same twt hash method, but only for the URL, to generate the nick, if it doesn’t exist, like so, @5vxo4ia@twtxt.net
Lol why you and bender twts are rendered but my with simular content are skipp3d? Upd: nevermind, i’m dumb, my twt are created in future because i type date -iS and replaces +03:00 with Z: https://twtxt.net/twt/yctmi7a
@doesnmppsflt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Not sure which bug you’re referring to. 🤔 (Did I forget?)
Those long IDs like (#113797927355322708) are simply part of that feed. Looks like the author just dumps ActivityPub IDs into twtxt. I think this used to work in the past, but the corresponding spec (https://twtxt.dev/exts/hash-tag.html) has been deprecated and jenny doesn’t support – actually, jenny never supported that.
jenny can only group threads by exactly one criterium (because it writes a Message-ID
into the mail file) and that’s the regular twt hash. So, anything else, like people doing “#CoolTopic”, isn’t possible.
I’m still making progress with the Emacs client. I’m proud to say that the code that is responsible for reading the feeds is almost finished, including: Twt Hash Extension, Twt Subject Extension, Multiline Extension and Metadata Extension. I’m fine-tuning some tests and will soon do the first buffer that displays the twts.
@bmallred@staystrong.run did you rotate your twtxt file or something happened to your twts? 🤔 asking just in case…
"twtxtfeevalidator/0.0.1"
UA about? I thought I could ask before throwing a 1000GB file at it 🪤 could it be the same 'xt' thing @lyse was talking about the other day?
hmm… apparently the invalid twts are the latest ones I’d posted from Timeline
but highly probably because I’d tried to restore them manually, after unintentionally overriding my twtxt file with one that was out of date 🤦
yarnd
(which powers Yarn.social pods like twtxt.net) does have an API, however that API is designed for clients to interact with the pod and the user's account and feed. e.g: there is a command-line client called yarnc
and I used to maintain a mobile native app (using Flutter).
Want this API for Goryon or just Goryon with support to just twtxt.txt. I can’t read timeline without visible replies and missing twts
Shi… I forgot to pull my twtxt file before twtin’ … let me see if I can recover them lost timeline twts.
Showing my nephew around linux… and what’s a better example of text editing in terminal than an actual twt? eh? 😆
well, the extension helps to know the file format as in .txt
and .html
, perhaps .twt
, he!
@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt I sent that mention manually for a demonstration as mentioned in the previous twt. Used the curl method.
@prologic@twtxt.net There’s always my log.html page if it helps… and while we’re still at it here’s the other twt #z2ymlkq for reference ;)
@prologic@twtxt.net I bet our twts are already being fed to circuit monsters… Remember the other day when I’d snapped out about some nonsense, being an A-Hole and what not? I’ve seen an AI company employee lurking around with not much interaction (if I’m not mistaken), so my mind went on auto-pilot mode thinking “This !#@%$ must be feeding us to the circuit peggy monster!! Arrr 😤” 🤣🤣🤣 but then again, one shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover (or an employee by his title) right?
@quark@ferengi.one What would happen if I replayed to this twt from the future, when I’m still in it’s relative past? 🤔
@
in your adverised nick in your feed. This is not supported 🤣
I wish I could view source twts like this to know if the root was not found and this was actually in reply to something i cant see.
I ended up deploying an OpenGist instead! unlike MicroBin, the whole things went smoother than posting a twt 😆
I guess I should setup some kind of past-bin or something, I bet somebody’s already angry about them last couple of long twts 😅 Sorry, not sorry! but I’ll try to fix that.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com You could use https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/twthash.py to generate twt hashes. I cobbled that together in order to generate test data for my client.
@bender@twtxt.net highly probably, unless I learn go and implement it myself (or someone else more capable does) … but I’m so lazy I’d just copy them from twtxt.net and call it a day xD and yeah, it’s kinda rough the way things are…
- I don’t see a way to follow others, all I can do is go to the /feeds URI for a list of the server’s users/feeds.
- I still couldn’t figure out how to get a direct link to a user’s twtxt file, curling /feeds/usernick spits out a list of the user usernick twts, so I guess you could use that to follow them.
- no way to add in your
# nick = usernick
/# url = proto://domain.ltd/path/to/twtxt.txt
…etc. Probably because that wasn’t part of the spec back then?
So yeah, it would make for a nice project while learning Go. :P
I’m getting way too comfortable with editing twts and fixing Eff’ ups… I gotta stop auto-syncing my twtxt file, at least I’ll have a breathing room for quick fixes when needed. I know, Michael Lucas might not approve of this but, I wouldn’t want the @yarn_police@twtxt.net in the middle of the night, right?
Ok, I’ve restored the misplaced twts … let’s just hope I didn’t make things worst xD
@bender@twtxt.net Haha! I assume you can’t see the original twt, let me quote for you so you know what I’m responding to:
2024-11-20T07:56:00-06:00 (#gjhq2xq) Hey! I tried running Timeline on my server with the default PHP version (8.3) and it’s giving me a few errors https://eapl.me/timeline/ I should be sending a PR soon to fix it ;)
source: eaplme’s twtxt file.
@eapl.me@eapl.me adding public $timestamp;
to the class Twt
in libs/twtxt.php (line 25) fixed that for me but probably broken something else 😅 …
My bad! My editor was set to use 4 spaces instead of a tab… Making twts by hand is hard =P
@bender@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de exactly! 😂 I accidentally duplicated a twt and deleted it as fast as I can, hoping nobody pulled the feed by then.
undefined array keys
and creation of dynamic properties being deprecated
(CC: @sorenpeter )
@bender@twtxt.net > which feed of his are you following? the .mx or the .me one? I was replaying to THIS TWT
@bender@twtxt.net So turns out something is setting my HashingURI to the value {{ .Profile.URI }}
and that is making my hashes wrong so it cannot delete or edit twts.
Can I edit this twt?
Regarding section 4 about feed discovery: Yeah, non-HTTP transport protocols are an issue as they do not have
User-Agent
headers. How exactly do you envision thediscovery_url
to work, though?
This is from a twt of mine from January 2022:
https://www.uninformativ.de/files/twtxt/2022%2D01%2D22%2D%2Dfollow%2Dendpoint.md
(This idea gets lost all the time, so I put it into a file now. 😅)
Not sure if this is what @eapl.me@eapl.me had in mind, obviously.