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In-reply-to » Very sunny 16°C, heaps of people outside. As soon as we were a bit further into the forest, we had it completely for us. From the foot we thought that the view might be rather good, but up at the summit, it turned out to be very hazy. Oh well. Surprisingly, I found four skyrocket sticks in premium quality. More than after New Year! Also, we came across two deer. It was a very nice two hours walk. No photos, though, sorry.

@arne@uplegger.eu Right, they’re great for upcycling. I knew you’d love that part. ;-)

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In-reply-to » So, are we muting/blocking the "DMers"? I am starting a list, and I am checking it twice.

@bender@twtxt.net Don’t panic. I’ve just been testing my implementation. The great advantage of Twtxt is it’s openness, I think. So DM spamming would contradict to this feature I like. ❤

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In-reply-to » Very sunny 16°C, heaps of people outside. As soon as we were a bit further into the forest, we had it completely for us. From the foot we thought that the view might be rather good, but up at the summit, it turned out to be very hazy. Oh well. Surprisingly, I found four skyrocket sticks in premium quality. More than after New Year! Also, we came across two deer. It was a very nice two hours walk. No photos, though, sorry.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org The best part is: “I found four skyrocket sticks in premium quality.” 🎇 One can never has enough skyroket sticks!

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In-reply-to » Does anybody know a right mouse click save and reduce a screen saver image to a smaller file, say 50KB? My usual method is slow, place in image program and re-save it smaller.

I hope not, @bender@twtxt.net! I haven’t checked, but I’d reckon it to be at most a single digit MiB number. How wrong am I?

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In-reply-to » Does anybody know a right mouse click save and reduce a screen saver image to a smaller file, say 50KB? My usual method is slow, place in image program and re-save it smaller.

@off_grid_living@twtxt.net No right click thing, but in the terminal:

convert -strip -quality 70 -resize 300x original.jpg resized.jpg

“original.jpg” being the filename of the input file and “resized.jpg” the filename of the output. You can play around with the width, “300x” means 300 pixels wide and the height is determined automatically to still remain in the same ratio. The quality is how much to compress it. The closer to 0 the value gets, the worse the result, but also smaller in file size. More towards 100 and the quality improves together with a larger file size.

You have to install the package “imagemagick” for this to work, I believe.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me Here is what I've got so far: https://github.com/upputter/testing-twtxt-dm

here is my progress so far: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-direct-message-php
The encryption part seems to work, if I decrypt it the message with OpenSSL.
I think it can help you for some key parts not well explained in OpenSSL documentation.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev reading your spec I wrote a few notes here: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-direct-message-php/blob/main/direct_message_spec.md

@arne@uplegger.eu I haven’t check your repo yet, although you are using sodium, right?

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me Here is what I've got so far: https://github.com/upputter/testing-twtxt-dm

@arne@uplegger.eu Here are the results of the german jury:

Known salt (B64): Tb9oj07UhwU= (8)
Known key (B64): MII0yj+MC0mHNx254Voar80bi9P7jmocs0+x+inaxBE=
Known iv (B64): l/PvkDjOKMFZe73KptrvWw== (16)
Shared Key (B64): ql8zvN03p6kroSwNrcKbxk4zSBQFkgQZEumvqVIDMAE=
** DECRYPT **
Encrypted Message: ...
Decoded Salt (B64): Tb9oj07UhwU= (8)
PBKDF2 KEY (B64): MII0yj+MC0mHNx254Voar80bi9P7jmocs0+x+inaxBE=
iv (B64): JanbU1jI30lb6yfjq/adjA== (16)
Decrypted Message: 

😭

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In-reply-to » @arne Well, just for my understanding. The command: echo "Lorem ipsum" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -pbkdf2 -iter 100000 -out message.enc -pass file:shared_key.bin will take the input string from echo to openssl. It then will

@arne@uplegger.eu With the OpenSSL option -p one can get an output of salt, key and iv. My stupid PHP-code can get everything right from the encrypted data (from OpenSSL) - except the iv! Damn “evpKDF” 😔

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In-reply-to » Today is an important day. We have a new extension: Direct message 🪇🗨️🚀🥳❤️ https://twtxt.dev/exts/direct-message.html #twtxt

@arne@uplegger.eu Hi! I love that you’re implementing it! Maybe, when we’re both done, we could test the clients by communicating both.
I don’t think I’m going to be able to help you much, my knowledge of OpenSSL and PHP is not as high as I’d like it to be.
Maybe the OpenSSL version uses SHA-1 by default in PHP. Or that the IV is derived together with the key (not generated separately). But I’m not able to answer your questions, sorry.
I’m invoking the commands directly, without any libraries in between. Maybe that would help you?

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In-reply-to » @andros I have really tried to get behind it. For an implementation for my TwtxtReader (PHP) I simply lack the knowledge of the standard-openssl parameters. All my solution approaches require “nonce” or “initialization vector” on one or the other side. In addition, the “magic numbers” (“Salted__”) were not consistent in my tests.

@arne@uplegger.eu Well, just for my understanding. The command:
echo "Lorem ipsum" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -pbkdf2 -iter 100000 -out message.enc -pass file:shared_key.bin
will take the input string from echo to openssl. It then will

  1. use the content of shared_key.bin as password
  2. use PBKDF2 with an iteration of 100000 to generate a encryption key from the given password (shared_key.bin)
  3. use the PBKDF2 generated key for an aes-256-cbc encryption

The final result is encrypted data with the prepended salt (which was generated by runtime), e.g.: Salted__q�;��-�T���"h%��5�� ....

With a dummy script I now can generate a valide shared key within PHP ‘openssl_pkey_derive()’ - identical to OpenSSL.
I also can en-/decrypt salted data within my script, but not with OpenSSL. There are several parameters of PBKDF2 unknown to me.

Question:

  1. Is the salt, used by aes-256-cbc and PBKDF2 the same, prepended in the encrypted data?
  2. Witch algorithm/cipher is used within PBKDF2: sha1, sha256, …?
  3. What is the desired key length of PBKDF2 (https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.openssl-pbkdf2.php)?

To be continued …

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In-reply-to » @andros I have really tried to get behind it. For an implementation for my TwtxtReader (PHP) I simply lack the knowledge of the standard-openssl parameters. All my solution approaches require “nonce” or “initialization vector” on one or the other side. In addition, the “magic numbers” (“Salted__”) were not consistent in my tests.

@arne@uplegger.eu

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If I keep the “nonce”, I can decrypt a message with the shared key, like in the direct message specs.
But that is not how it should work. 😒

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In-reply-to » 💭 Remember kids 🧒

@prologic@twtxt.net I wish getting a static IP and a (more) stable internet connection wasn’t so hard over here. Then I could do proper self-hosting as well. But as it stands, I need some rented VPS.

I could go ahead and just use the VPS for the IP, i.e. forward all traffic through Wireguard to a box here at home. Big downside is that the network connection would be even slower than it already is and my ISP breaks down all the time for a few minutes … it’s just bad overall and much easier/better to rent a VPS. 🫤

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In-reply-to » I'm in an article in Quanta Magazine! It's about the bizarre world of algorithms that re-use memory that's already full. https://www.quantamagazine.org/catalytic-computing-taps-the-full-power-of-a-full-hard-drive-20250218/ I'm the one with all the snow in the background.

Thanks, @falsifian@www.falsifian.org! I’ll definitely start with the latter one then. Let’s see how far I make it. :-)

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In-reply-to » I got promoted today to try using Passkeys on Github.com. Fine 😅 I did that, but I discovered that when you use your Passkey to login, Chrome prompts you for your device's password (i.e: The password you use to login to your macOS Desktop). Is that intentional? Kind of defeats the point no? I mean sure, now there's no Password being transmitted, stored or presented to Github.com but still, all an attacker has to do is somehow be on my device and know my login password to my device right? Is that better or worse? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m speculating, but if I had to guess I’d say it’s probably asking for your user password in order to access some user keyring (or whatever your OS uses to manage user secret credentials) used to safely store your passkeys related data in order to do its passkeys /ME doing air quotes Magic™ … you could try with a different password manager to avoid said scenario.

Also, passkeys UX sucks.

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