@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz love this for you
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz trueee! good point
Let’s return to previous conversation: what if detect nick from url: pubnix.com/~nick/twtxt.txt is nick, domain.com/anick.txt is anick and etc
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I mean, you could do the mjd approach & record your monitor while sitting a few feet away, with a Bluetooth mouse & keeb, watching your inputs from the view finder
Or using the same twt hash method, but only for the URL, to generate the nick, if it doesn’t exist, like so, @5vxo4ia@twtxt.net
@<url>
form of mentions. Strictly require that all mentions include a nickname/name; i.e: @<name url>
.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hmm you ate right 😆 Also did you volunteer to fix this 🤔🤣
@<url>
form of mentions. Strictly require that all mentions include a nickname/name; i.e: @<name url>
.
@prologic@twtxt.net If you’ve got the feed URL in yarnd’s cache, you can easily look up a missing nick. If you can’t find it, just show the URL (or maybe just the domain name to be halfway consistent with this @nick@domain
thing that yarnd invented) and be done. It’s really that simple.
When yarnds peer with each other, the odds of actually having come across that feed URL in the past are higher than with traditional clients that only have their local set of subscribed feeds. One additional improvment would be to also look at all the mentions and see if somebody used a nick for that URL and go with that.
Yeah, yarnd currently renders some really weird shit when the mention contains just a URL, but I’d call that a bug for sure.
Personally, I do not like the @nick@domain
syntax at all. It looks silly to my eyes. What might have also contributed is the fact of this mentions syntax gotten screwed up so many times by yarnd in the past. But that’s a totally different topic.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @prologic@twtxt.net So, a burning roll of yarn…? :-D
@prologic@twtxt.net Since I live in Germany, I do believe the media here is generally reputable. It really depends where you live of course. Source I look at are Reuters, NPR, The Guardian, Die Zeit, NY Times, CNN, Tagesschau, Spiegel Online, RP Online (for local news), … I would never just trust what I see in my social media feeds.
Thanks, I’m trying my best. Also, nice to meet you (and welcome back?) @oevl@twtxt.net, never seen you around before. 🙌
@prologic@twtxt.net Don’t you dare fix it xD it’s not a bug, it’s a feature! xD
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’m all in!
Hmm, I just noticed that the feed template seems to be broken on your yarnd instance, @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz. Looking at your raw feed file (and your mates as well), line 6 reads:
# This is hosted by a Yarn.social pod yarn running yarnd ERSION@OMMIT go1.23.4
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Looks like the first letters of the version and commit got somehow chopped off. I’ve no idea what happened here, maybe @prologic@twtxt.net knows something. :-? I’m not familiar with the templating, I just recall @xuu@txt.sour.is reporting in IRC the other day that he’s also having great fun with his custom preamble from time to time.
That “broken” comment doesn’t hurt anything, it’s still a proper comment and hence ignored by clients. It’s just odd, that’s all.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Very cool!
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i don’t even have like time or space to stream unless it was no mic/video and just me doing stuff on my computer which can be boring without even mic input. plus no way to use camcorder that way. but. it’d be cool if i could so i dream
trying to set up @movq@www.uninformativ.de’s jenny client… currently trying to find where twtxt files are stored on the server so i can set up the scp script i have for this
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Even though I’m not an Emacs user, that’s really cool! :-)
@suitechic@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz shes the best <3
@suitechic@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz lol thats neat!
@prologic@twtxt.net i thought i was going insane when i saw blank posts on my TL i was like is noscript fucking with me again but no it’s you guys fucking around LOLLLL
@movq@www.uninformativ.de same here lol! my aunt actually got it for me so i’m super excited to tinker with it and i might record a vlog for it :D
@bender@twtxt.net Hahaha! :-D
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Thanks!
@<url>
form of mentions. Strictly require that all mentions include a nickname/name; i.e: @<name url>
.
@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de Well, the original Twtxt Specification explicitly allows for the short form with just a URL and no nick: https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/twtxtfile.html#format-specification
Mentions are embedded within the text in either
@<source.nick source.url>
or@<source.url>
format […]
I’d just continue supporting it, even though I don’t see it all that often in the wild. I guess more common is the case where just a nick is given, which is illegal. But yarnd users seem to produce it every now and then.
What’s the motivation for deprecation?
Lol why you and bender twts are rendered but my with simular content are skipp3d? Upd: nevermind, i’m dumb, my twt are created in future because i type date -iS and replaces +03:00 with Z: https://twtxt.net/twt/yctmi7a
@movq@www.uninformativ.de An ähnliche Aktionen, von vor 20 Jahren, kann ich mich auch noch erinnern. Viel aktueller als damals™ waren unsere Spiele gestern auch nicht. BF1942, CoD, Flatout, CnC, AoE2, Unreal und Quake3, um nur einige zu nennen.
I mean bug where jenny don’t know about these id’s and tried to request from twtxt.net (prologic sent access logs)
@doesnmppsflt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Not sure which bug you’re referring to. 🤔 (Did I forget?)
Those long IDs like (#113797927355322708) are simply part of that feed. Looks like the author just dumps ActivityPub IDs into twtxt. I think this used to work in the past, but the corresponding spec (https://twtxt.dev/exts/hash-tag.html) has been deprecated and jenny doesn’t support – actually, jenny never supported that.
jenny can only group threads by exactly one criterium (because it writes a Message-ID
into the mail file) and that’s the regular twt hash. So, anything else, like people doing “#CoolTopic”, isn’t possible.
This is the first screenshot, a simple timeline I’m using to check the fields. Now I’m working on some details: avatar cache, relative dates, simple thread, etc.
#emacs #twtxtHello @movq@uninformativ.de . Did you fixed jenny bug which causes fetching long ids from yarn instances on feeds like https://ciberlandia.pt/@marado.txt ? I’m asking because i want to store links in brackets on some of my posts and don’t want to confuse jenny users
Test twtxt parser (please remind me to delete this)
@bender@twtxt.net thank you! :D
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz oh i love her, can’t wait to see it!
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ah, thanks for letting me know that! i’ll def be keeping that in mind.
@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt LOL sorry which client are you using? 🤔 You can of course have a say! There aren’t that many active/used clients at the moment, and I forget which one you’re using 🤣🤣
@<url>
form of mentions. Strictly require that all mentions include a nickname/name; i.e: @<name url>
.
For the record; we consider the new authority on the Twtxt spec(s) going forward (has been for some years actually) to be implementers / primary maintainers of widely used clients. To date that is:
yarnd
@prologic@twtxt.net (me and others)
jenny
@movq@www.uninformativ.de
tt
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
Timeline
@darch@neotxt.dk / @eapl.me@eapl.me and others
twtxt-el
? – @andros@twtxt.andros.dev
Full list of supported and widely used clients can be found at https://twtxt.dev/clients.html – which I note a few above are actually missing from this page haha 🤣
@<url>
form of mentions. Strictly require that all mentions include a nickname/name; i.e: @<name url>
.
What say you @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @eapl.mx@eapl.mx / @darch@neotxt.dk @andros@twtxt.andros.dev (new client author)? 🤔 Shall I PR this up?
@johanbove@johanbove.info But which one(s)? 🤔🤔 Serious question; my neighbor next door swears by the BBC and ABC (I’m Australian); but honestly even those news sources are full of political rhetoric and non-facts (opinions, etc) – I have yet to see a single news source of actual facts and nothing more.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oh this rules
@bender@twtxt.net it’s awesome!!!!!!!!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Woohoo, noice! Now you can ship, even sell it! :-D
All kidding aside, even though I never wrote a proper brainfuck program myself, I do like that. :-) Keep it going.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz The early bird… oh wait. :-D
Yeah, @bender@twtxt.net, I absolutely love it! :-D Monty Python just rocks!
This very knight inspired me to make myself a knight helmet with opening visor out of an old washing machine sheet metal years ago for a theater play. It was really great fun, both making the helmet as well as using it during the week in the play as a silly and shady prince who got all his tracts of land by winning dubious games.
I just couldn’t really hear very well in it. And if somebody hit me on the head or just slightly knocked on the helmet, it was incredibly loud. No fine craftmanship by any means and obviously historically extremely questionable at best, but it did the job well enough. One of the running gags was that I had to open the visor when I wanted to talk. Here are some photos in action, you’ll find many more when surfing through the gallery:
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/montag/017.html#image
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/dienstag/019.html#image
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/mittwoch/156.html#image
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/donnerstag/008.html#image
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/freitag/036.html#image In one lunch break my page and I decided to dress up and play a game of dice against the kids. However, we used badly cogged dice. We just added a few dots of paint on one of the two dice, so that it had two fours, two fives and two sixes or something like that. I always told my opponents: “You can choose whatever dice you want. Except for the red one, that’s my lucky dice!” As well-behaved children, they then selected the blue, unbiased one. And usually lost. However, I remember there was one kid that beat me with four sixes in row. :-D Although we thought, we make it halfway obvious that this game is truly not fair, it took them extremely long to figure out that we had messed with my lucky dice. When they finally did, they got super angry. Some of them were on the brink of beating me up. That was really nice to see their sense of justice kick it. :-)
- https://wawuwo.de/2016/woche2/freitag/169.html#image
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Woah, that’s insane! Yeah, I wanted to take it easy as well, but then suddenly got 9:30 hours on the clock… :-/
Vacations were great, it took me five attempts this morning to enter my disk encryption password. :-D
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i wrote insane fanfiction last night that may make my friends think i’m weirder than usual but oh well. embrace da weirdness. also i wanna make zines
@prologic@twtxt.net it’s pretty new for me but i’m liking it so far!
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com yeah! i considered it but i went with taskbook because it just seemed simpler lol. nb does look very fleshed out and feature rich though i kinda wanna try out its note-locking feature
@suitechic@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz aw thank you nikki!!! i really wanna make a new zine it’s been a while! hopefully i can finish my miyawaki sakura one soon…
@suitechic@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz yeah i’ve also used namecheap, though i will say if you want to do TLS on demand with them then it’s kind of a pain and i think you have to pay more last i checked so i’d try something different.
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz this is so real