i’ve observed that (decentralized) social platforms that encourage promiscuous follow behavior frequently run into this issue. there are lots of grumpy people out there and people who use social media to vent or let off steam. i know people worry about siloes, but i think that actually is an expression of FOMO and anxiety over being ignored by the ‘cool kids’. what i rarely see is media platforms that embrace the reality of bubbles and give users the ability to form healthy social connections and curate content that they enjoy.

Lol, this is actually a good thing by Apple. Doesn’t kill social apps at all, just prevents some harvesting of your entire address book by abusive apps like WhatsApp.

Did Apple Just Kill Social Apps?
Apple’s iOS 18 update has introduced changes to contact sharing that could significantly impact social app developers. The new feature allows users to selectively share contacts with apps, rather than granting access to their entire address book. While Apple touts this as a privacy enhancement, developers warn it may hinder the growth of new social platforms. Nikita Bier, a start-up founder, called it “the en … ⌘ Read more

👋 Thanks for joining us on our Sept monthly Yarn.social meetup today y’all 🙇‍♂️ We had @david@collantes.us @sorenpeter@darch.dk @doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt @falsifian@www.falsifian.org and @xuu@txt.sour.is 💪 Nice turn out! (not all at once of course, as we normally run this over 4 hours as we span many time zones!)

Things we talked about:

• Decentralised vs. Distributed
  
• Use of SHA256 for Twt Hash(es)
  
• We solved Edits! 🥳
  
• UUID(s) probably won’t work! (susceptible to sppofing)
  
• Helped @sorenpeter@darch.dk write some PHP to process/parse User-Agent and service his feed via a custom PHP script 😅
  
• @falsifian@www.falsifian.org introduced himself 👌
  
• Talked about Merkle Trees 🌳
  

Did I miss anything? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net

See https://dev.twtxt.net

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. I like that collection and “twtxt v2” feels like a departure.

Maybe there’s an advantage to grouping it into one spec, but IMO that shouldn’t be done at the same time as introducing new untested ideas.

See https://yarn.social (especially this section: https://yarn.social/#self-host) – It really doesn’t get much simpler than this 🤣

Again, I like this existing simplicity. (I would even argue you don’t need the metadata.)

That page says “For the best experience your client should also support some of the Twtxt Extensions…” but it is clear you don’t need to. I would like it to stay that way, and publishing a big long spec and calling it “twtxt v2” feels like a departure from that. (I think the content of the document is valuable; I’m just carping about how it’s being presented.)

Official yarn.social tool: git.mills.io/yarnsocial/useragent

if twtxt 2 is dropping gemini support, i will probably move on and spend more time on my gemini social zine protocol instead. i think the direction of the protocol is probably fine, but for me web is a tier 2 publishing channel. if the choice is between gemini and http i’m always going to pick gemini. its been a fun ride, but i guess this is where i get off.

decentralization of nixos https://discourse.nixos.org/t/monorepos-dont-map-to-our-social-structure/44162/5

👋 Reminder folks of the upcoming Yarn.social monthly online meetup:

I hope to see @david@collantes.us @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @xuu@txt.sour.is @sorenpeter@darch.dk and hopefully others too @aelaraji@aelaraji.com @falsifian@www.falsifian.org and anyone else that sees this! 🙏 We’re hopefully going to primarily discuss the future of Twtxt and the last few weeks of discussions 🤣

• Event: Yarn.social Online Meetup
  
• When: 28th September 2024 at 12:00pm UTC (midday)
  
• Where: Mills Meet : Yarn.social
  
• Cadence: 4th Saturday of every Month
  

Agenda:

• Let’s talk about the upcoming changes to the Twtxt spec(s)
  
  • See #xgghhnq
    

#Yarn.social #Meetup

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I cases of these kind of “abuse” of social trust. Then I think people should just delete their replies, unfollow the troll and leave them to shouting in the void. This is a inter-social issue, not a technical issue. Anything can be spoofed. We are not building a banking app, we are just having conversation and if trust are broken then communication breaks down. These edge-cases are all very hypothetical and not something I think we need to solve with technology.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’d guess the same goes for all twtxt.social feeds… I can’t see bender’s archived twts either, didn’t check for the others.

@prologic@twtxt.net It’s all I’m using … I have barely touched any other social media since I’ve discovered Twtxt back in April 😂 maybe a little bit of Mastodon and IRC, bluesky even less, but nothing else worth mentioning.

@prologic@twtxt.net didn’t it already? or is it just me and my social bubble? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net you should see This ! The devs were already trying to figure things out for TWTXT and Yarn.social 😃

On the Subject of Feed Identities; I propose the following:

1. Generate a Private/Public ED25519 key pair
   
2. Use this key pair to sign your Twtxt feed
   
3. Use it as your feed’s identity in place of # url = as # key = ...
   

For example:

$ ssh-keygen -f prologic@twtxt.net
$ ssh-keygen -Y sign -n prologic@twtxt.net -f prologic@twtxt.net twtxt.txt

And your feed would looke like:

# nick        = prologic
# key         = SHA256:23OiSfuPC4zT0lVh1Y+XKh+KjP59brhZfxFHIYZkbZs
# sig         = twtxt.txt.sig
# prev        = j6bmlgq twtxt.txt/1
# avatar      = https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/avatar#gdoicerjkh3nynyxnxawwwkearr4qllkoevtwb3req4hojx5z43q
# description = "Problems are Solved by Method" 🇦🇺👨‍💻👨‍🦯🏹♔ 🏓⚯ 👨‍👩‍👧‍👧🛥 -- James Mills (operator of twtxt.net / creator of Yarn.social 🧶)

2024-06-14T18:22:17Z	(#nef6byq) @<bender https://twtxt.net/user/bender/twtxt.txt>  Hehe thanks! 😅 Still gotta sort out some other bugs, but that's tomorrows job 🤞
...

Twt Hash extension would change of course to use a feed’s ED25519 public key fingerprint.

@prologic@twtxt.net One of your twts begins with (#st3wsda): https://twtxt.net/twt/bot5z4q

Based on the twtxt.net web UI, it seems to be in reply to a twt by @cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org which begins “I’ve been sketching out…”.

But jenny thinks the hash of that twt is 6mdqxrq. At least, there’s a very twt in their feed with that hash that has the same text as appears on yarn.social (except with ‘ instead of ’).

Based on this, it appears jenny and yarnd disagree about the hash of the twt, or perhaps the twt was edited (though I can’t see any difference, assuming ’ vs ’ is just a rendering choice).

@prologic@twtxt.net I guess I thought they were search engines. Anyway, the registry API looks like a decent one for searching for tweets. Could/should yarn.social pods implement the same API?

I just manually followed the steps at https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/twthashextension.html and got 6mdqxrq. I wonder what happened. Did @cuaxolo@sunshinegardens.org edit the twt in some subtle way after twtxt.net downloaded it? I couldn’t spot a diff, other than ‘ appearing as ’ on yarn.social, which I assume is a transformation done by twtxt.net.

@prologic@twtxt.net How does yarn.social’s API fix the problem of centralization? I still need to know whose API to use.

Say I see a twt beginning (#hash) and I want to look up the start of the thread. Is the idea that if that twt is hosted by a a yarn.social pod, it is likely to know the thread start, so I should query that particular pod for the hash? But what if no yarn.social pods are involved?

The community seems small enough that a registry server should be able to keep up, and I can have a couple of others as backups. Or I could crawl the list of feeds followed by whoever emitted the twt that prompted my query.

I have successfully used registry servers a little bit, e.g. to find a feed that mentioned a tag I was interested in. Was even thinking of making my own, if I get bored of my too many other projects :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Thanks, it works!

But when I tried it out on a twt from @prologic@twtxt.net, I discovered jenny and yarn.social seem to disagree about the hash of this twt: https://twtxt.net/twt/st3wsda . jenny assigned it a hash of 6mdqxrq but the URL and prologic’s reply suggest yarn.social thinks the hash is st3wsda. (And as a result, jenny –fetch-context didn’t work on prologic’s twt.)

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@quark@ferengi.one Check out this thread if you haven’t already: https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/112464533481477428

I think we already know It’s likely to be a disaster.

👋 Hello @nigergibe@anthony.buc.ci, welcome to Buccipod, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

👋 Hello @nigergibe@anthony.buc.ci, welcome to Buccipod, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

@prologic@twtxt.net I think it was some mix of phish and social engineering. She didn’t have the multifactor enabled. But i think she had clicked a message that had a fake login. She talked to someone on a phone and they made her do some things.

I never got the whole story of how it happened.

Kinda cool tool for bringing together all your timeline based data across socials.

https://github.com/timelinize/timelinize

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org by the way, on the last Saturday of every month, we generally hold a online video call/social meet up, where we just get together and talk about stuff if, you’re interested in joining us this month.

Thanks @prologic@twtxt.net! I like the way Yarn.social is making all of twtxt stronger, not just Yarn.social pods.

@prologic@twtxt.net HAHA! Couldn’t say it better. I started abandoning main stream social media as soon as is it stopped feeling like connecting and sharing with other human beings and became an urge for feeding an algorithm and hoping for it’s blessing to get a glimpse of human interaction It deems worthy of having.

I’m working on getting my twtxt.txt file up to https://yarn.social standards so that it will be more than yelling in the wind.

⭐ 🔗 https://mastodon.social/@wonderofscience/112881235958744492

⭐ 🔗 https://social.linux.pizza/@augmentedrobot/112847765755850746

I’m getting back into the swing of things with this distributed social.

👋 Hello @hoorydrotrult@anthony.buc.ci, welcome to Buccipod, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

👋 Hello @safeenakhan@anthony.buc.ci, welcome to Buccipod, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

Bem-vindo @kuat a melhor rede social

👋 Well that was great! 👍 Our Yarn.social Online Meetup for the 25th May 2024 (after a long hiatic) was a great success! 🥳 Thank you to @darch@neotxt.dk @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @xuu@txt.sour.is and @bmallred@staystrong.run for joining today 🙇‍♂️ It was great to see and talk to y’all 🤗

Let’s do this again next month! Last Saturday of each month 👌 The ~4hr window worked quite well too I think 🤔

This was interesting: I didn’t expect so much variation in reported times. If you happen to have #plan9 running on some other VPS, I’d love to hear your results. https://pdx.social/@a/112481970480703254

@aelaraji@mastodon.social @aelaraji@aelaraji.com Aw, thanks. I should install a twtxt client I guess… But I prefere rss, so for now, it’s just a twtxt2atom script doing the job :)

Interesting. Thanks! And thank you for replying. :) Indeed, I don’t check for mention with twtxt. To me, twtxt is to share, not to talk: there is my email commented at the top of my #twtxt.txt for this purpose. Trying to create discussions with twtxt is nonsens : there are much better tools to do so (email, xmpp, …) @aelaraji@aelaraji.com @im-in.space@im-in.space

@prologic@twtxt.net Wait! That’s actually a Mastodon(.)social one! 🤣

Sorry not sorry ranger…

SuperFile a Pretty fancy and modern terminal file manager written in #go.

What’s that thing called when everyone on a social media platform (hardly matters which one) all post the same sort of thing. It all sounds oh so wonderful, or all so dramatic, everyone claps and cheers and thumbs up or whatever. What’s that thing called? There’s a term for it hmmm 🧐

👋 Okay folks, let’s startup the Yarn.social calls again.

• Event: Yarn.social Online Meetup
  
• When: 25th May 2024 at 12:00pm UTC (midday)
  
• Where: Mills Meet : Yarn.social
  
• Cadence: 4th Saturday of every Month
  

Agenda:

Anything we want to talk about. Twtxt, Yarn, self hosting, cool stuff you’ve been working on. chit-chat, whatever 😅

#Yarn.social #Meetup

I think @abucci@anthony.buc.ci and @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no are running snac? I didn’t have a closer look at snac (no intention of running it), but if that is a relatively small daemon (maybe comparable to Yarn?) that gives you access to the whole world of ActivityPub, then, well, yeah … That’s tough to beat.

Yes, I am running snac on the same VPS where I run my yarn pod. I heard of it from @stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no, so blame him 😏 snac is written in C and is one simple executable, uses very little resources on the server, and stores everything in JSON files (no databases or other integrations; easy to save and migrate your data) . It’s definitely like yarn in that respect.

I haven’t been around yarn much lately. Part of that is that I’ve been very busy at work and home and only have a limited time to spend goofing off on a social network. Part of it is that I’m finding snac very useful: I’ve connected with friends I’d previously lost touch with, I’ve found useful work-related information, I’ve found colleagues to follow, and even found interesting conferences to attend. There’s a lot more going on over there.

I guess if I had to put it simply, I’d say I have limited time to play and there are more kids in the ActivityPub sandbox than this one. That’s not a ding on yarn–I like yarn and twtxt–I’m just time constrained.

Is Yarn.social dead or just too niche? (uyrrria) 🧐

⭐ > Economics: “Humans only value things monetarily.” > Sociology: […] 🔗 https://yom.li/notes/20240406133747 🔖 https://aus.social/@space_cadet/112221413089184897

L’interface web par défaut de mastodon est décidément très lourde. J’adore utiliser à la place pinafore. C’est un bon compromis devant brutaldon. Dommage que l’auto-héberger semble si fragile, mais le site officiel est très bien: https://pinafore.social/

Me invitaron al Mastodon de Super Happy Dev House CUU, por allá me pueden ver también. Intentaré publicar en ambos lados!
https://superhappy.social/@emas

Just a reminder featherwiki exists, and is amazing: https://feather.wiki/ @FeatherWiki@FeatherWiki