@bender@twtxt.net I try to avoid editing. I guess I would write 5/4, 6/4, etc, and hopefully my audience would be sympathetic to my failing.

Anyway, I don’t think my eccentric decision to number my twts in the style of other social media platforms is the only context where someone might write ¼ not meaning a quarter. E.g. January 4, to Americans.

I’m happy to keep overthinking this for as long as you are :-P

@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net I’m not exactly asking yarnd to change. If you are okay with the way it displayed my twts, then by all means, leave it as is. I hope you won’t mind if I continue to write things like 1/4 to mean “first out of four”.

What has text/markdown got to do with this? I don’t think Markdown says anything about replacing 1/4 with ¼, or other similar transformations. It’s not needed, because ¼ is already a unicode character that can simply be directly inserted into the text file.

What’s wrong with my original suggestion of doing the transformation before the text hits the twtxt.txt file? @prologic@twtxt.net, I think it would achieve what you are trying to achieve with this content-type thing: if someone writes 1/4 on a yarnd instance or any other client that wants to do this, it would get transformed, and other clients simply wouldn’t do the transformation. Every client that supports displaying unicode characters, including Jenny, would then display ¼ as ¼.

Alternatively, if you prefer yarnd to pretty-print all twts nicely, even ones from simpler clients, that’s fine too and you don’t need to change anything. My 1/4 -> ¼ thing is nothing more than a minor irritation which probably isn’t worth overthinking.

So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter@darch.dk’s Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!

Spent some time cleaning up my AoC code to get ready for December 1st. Anyone else doing it this year? @prologic@twtxt.net we have to setup a new team each year?

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m not a yarnd user, so it doesn’t matter a whole lot to me, but FWIW I’m not especially keen on changing how I format my twts to work around yarnd’s quirks.

I wonder if this kind of postprocessing would fit better between composing (via yarnd’s UI) and publishing. So, if a yarnd user types ¼, it could get changed to ¼ in the twtxt.txt file for everyone to see, not just people reading through yarnd. But when I type ¼, meaning first out of four, as a non-yarnd user, the meaning wouldn’t get corrupted. I can always type ¼ directly if that’s what I really intend.

(This twt might be easier to understand if you read it without any transformations :-P)

Anyway, again, I’m not a yarnd user, so do what you will, just know you might not be seeing exactly what I meant.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i’ve wondered the same thing.. dansup can be pretty erratic and i don’t really trust the guy. thankfully (at least from my perspective) he’s not the only game in town. though i think going UI-first is kind of jumping the gun. the fediverse doesn’t really have the infrastructure in place to support video publishing at the scale that a tiktok user might expect. based on some of dansups statements regarding palestine, i’m sure its partially an effort to control what kind of content makes it into fedi’s tiktok streams for the first while.

@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net Hallucinating invisible pedestrians, great application!

@sorenpeter@darch.dk I’ve been using weechat for a while then when I started learning my way around Emacs I switched to Circe … a couple months later I setup ZNC, rolled with it for some time but wasn’t sure if I wanted to stick with it. Now I’m mainly using TheLounge and do find it convenient accessing it from anywhere. but quite honestly, I don’t have a preference.

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, sorry about that, I shouldn’t have put something like that out there in the fist place. It started as a completely different twit then I got overwhelmed noticing that I may have became the exact same thing I despise the most 🤦

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah short Nick is going to be unique enough. There is always olong Nick that adds the domain for differentiation.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk I run Weechat headless on a VM and mostly connect via mobile or dwsktop. I use the android client or gliwing bear. Work blocks all comms on their always on MitM VPN so I cant in office anymore. So I just use mobile.

@slashdot@feeds.twtxt.net Ugh, do we really need more brainrot, even if it is more open? 😅

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Yes 🤞

@bender@twtxt.net True, I’m just not sure we can have it both way? 🤔 I can turn smartypants off, but I do seem to recall you wanted it on 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Hehe! I’m flattered.

@prologic@twtxt.net I wrote ¼ (one slash four) by which I meant “the first out of four”. twtxt.net is showing it as ¼, a single character that IMO doesn’t have that same meaning (it means 0.25). Similarly, ¾ got replaced with ¾ in another twt. It’s not a big deal. It just looks a little wrong, especially beside the 2/4 and 4/4 in my other two twts.

@prologic@twtxt.net Just gave this one a try to update my twtxt.txt file with a proper # follow = ... list! 🙏

@prologic@twtxt.net One could argue twtxt.net’s display formatting is a little over-eager here.

@prologic@twtxt.net that should be right

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Awesome! I’ll dig in as soon as I come back from my late night stroll

@movq@www.uninformativ.de How hard would it be to implement something like (#<2024-10-25T17:15:50Z https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt>)in jenny as a replacement for (#twthash) and have it not care about if is http(s) or a g-protocol?

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Speed is an issue for the client software, not the format itself, but yes I agree that it makes the most sense to append post to the end of the file. I’m referring to the definition that it’s the first url = in the file that is the one that has to be used for the twthash computation, which is a too arbitrary way of defining something that breaks treading time and time again. And this is the case for not using url+date+message = twthash.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL, you are late! :-P Stores around started selling Christmas’s decorations early September. Like, wow! Usually the earliest is after Halloween, more often after Thanksgiving.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de interesting! So, what would the fix be, in this case, do you know? Aware of this, @prologic@twtxt.net?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, having an issue fetching a twtxt context. I am getting:

Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://txt.sour.is ...
Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://twtxt.net ...
Twt could not be found

Yet, the twtxt is there: https://twtxt.net/twt/mowsvgq. Bug, or something else?

Simplified twtxt - I want to suggest some dogmas or commandments for twtxt, from where we can work our way back to how to implement different feature like replies/treads:

1. It’s a text file, so you must be able to write it by hand (ie. no app logic) and read by eye. If you edit a post you change the content not the timestamp. Otherwise it will be considered a new post.

2. The order of lines in a twtxt.txt must not hold any significant. The file is a container and each line an atomic piece of information. You should be able to run sort on a twtxt.txt and it should still work.

3. Transport protocol should not matter, as long as the file served is the same. Http and https are preferred, so it is suggested that feed served via Gopher or Gemini also provide http(s).

4. Do we need more commandments?

@prologic@twtxt.net Why does twtxt.net still show my old avatar?

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl Welcome to the twt’verse 👋

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt finally someone read my blogpost ;)

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Thank you, and yes I got more on my websites https://darch.dk/vj/ and https://algorave.dk/videos/

@Phys_org@feeds.twtxt.net …which will be entirely ignored when the 💩 hits the 🪭

“Interest grows in geoengineering” because pursuing the obvious, clearest, most direct solution–reducing fossil fuel use–is for some reason off the table. That is already an unethical arrangement. Pasting an ethical framework on top doesn’t change the rotten situation at its core.

@New_scientist@feeds.twtxt.net Pusher can detect own product. Film at 11.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Although my recent breakage/down time was more of a result of human error than it is something to blame on software itself, I do get your point; and will highly probably end up going the same route in the near future. It’s just that in order to south my forever itching curiosity, I have to learn and try some things first.

@asquare@asquare.srht.site Hi back at you!! 👋 and nice to meet you!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I didn’t realize elves were considered malicious either.

@prologic@twtxt.net Nice. My muscle memory defaults to visual block mode then insert across rows for this circumstance. It’s funny how you do things so often without thinking about a different way of doing it.

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Always nice to see another person learning the power of vis “language as a user interface” paradigm. :waves: Hello from a happy Kakoune user!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Touch Typing GIGA-CHAD spotted how fast do you type? I can barely do 12wpm xD so I have plenty of time to think about my next short-cut.

@bmallred@staystrong.run Sweeeeeeeeeeet!! Just gave it a try and sorted my Jenny follow list; Thank you !!

@bender@twtxt.net so much rain. a lot of us thought we were non-flooding (or non-evac and zone x) but still had water come in the houses in pinellas. been an interesting past month!

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com … this made me realize that I don’t really know anymore which commands I use. It’s all muscle memory by now. 🤔

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com one i use quite frequently is when i have a list of items (1 per line) and want them sorted but only keep those which are unique: ggV}:sort u

@prologic@twtxt.net Sure!! gg=G auto-indents your documents, as for the rest it’s:

• v for selection mode, c for change and d for delete actions as usual.
  
• followed by either ‘afor around ori` for inside/in-between whatever special character comes after it
  _ the [, (, “ … special characters define the perimeter/extent of the action.
  

i.e: ci" would be change the text under the cursor between quotes and da[ _delete text and brackets included_

I’ve linked a reference in the first twt, hope you find it useful.

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com And pray tell/share with us what these magical commands do? 🤣

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org yeah, that’s the thing! I’ve been trying to learn more vim motions and I just can’t get myself to remember any… Now I have that cheat sheet bookmarked, I can look them up on the need to know basis.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk I watched it the other day, it’s pretty neat! do you have more of these?

@prologic@twtxt.net nick is skinshafi and domain is aelaraji.com 🫡

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com So, what’s your salty addr? I tried to guess it by doing a lookup, but I guess I didn’t guess right 😅

@prx@si3t.ch If you were to read this, I would’ve suggested that you gave Podman a try… alas, you won’t.

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt Much appreciated!! 🙏 I’ll go through the files and see if I can understand any of it. I might learn a thing or two along the way.