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In-reply-to » @zvava I am getting [2025/09/11 12:56:01.816] ⇒ please set config.host when trying to run "bbycll". How to bypass that tiny hurdle?

Adding too this. The configuration example at the repository reads:

{
	"nick": "Example",
	"description": "alice's twtxt instance!",
	"host": "twtxt.example.com",
	"admin": "alice"
}

Would it make more sense changing nick to instance_name or similar? Usually nick is reserved for users, like here, quark. Right? Also, is host the same FQDN to be used while proxying traffic to the application? That is, using the above configuration, it’s Caddy configuration would be:

twtxt.example.com {
	encode
	reverse_proxy :31212
}

Is that correct?

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In-reply-to » @prologic im unsure how i feel about the hash v2 proposal, given it is completely backward incompatible with hash v1 it doesn't really solve any of the problems with it. it only delays collisions, and still fragments threads on post edits

@zvava@twtxt.net It is just completely impossible to make v2 backwards-compatible with v1.

Well, breaking threads on edits is considered a feature by some people. I reckon the only approach to reasonably deal with that property is to carefully review messages before publishing them, thus delaying feed updates. Any typos etc., that have been discovered afterwards, are just left alone. That’s what I and some others do. I only risk editing if the feed has been published very few seconds earlier. More than 20 seconds and I just ignore it. Works alright for the most part.

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im unable to figure out why bbycll is not generating posts hashes for @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s feed correctly (or at least different from the ones generated by yarn)

i’m pretty sure the timezone is stripped off the offset correctly (2025-09-14T12:45:00+02:002025-09-14T12:45:00Z) though messing with how the hash is generated i can’t get it to make one that matches…but all other hashes for all other feeds seem to be correct? does yarn use a different canonical url for lyse internally? is there a bug in the libraries im using? bwehhh

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In-reply-to » @zvava Herw you go: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28

@prologic@twtxt.net im unsure how i feel about the hash v2 proposal, given it is completely backward incompatible with hash v1 it doesn’t really solve any of the problems with it. it only delays collisions, and still fragments threads on post edits

i skimmed through discussions under other the proposals — i agree humans are very bad at keeping the integrity of the web in tact, but hashes in done in this way make it impossible even for systems to rebuild threads if any post edits have occurred prior to their deployment

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In-reply-to » wait....so i'm like nearly done? it just works? and it's fast? this feels like the end of the first all-nighter i pulled where i just got post creation done, unaware of the three weeks that would follow — like looking at the roadmap i'm definitely not done but bbycll is like actually kind of usable now o.o

@zvava@twtxt.net that makes it even more so exciting! 😂

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In-reply-to » wait....so i'm like nearly done? it just works? and it's fast? this feels like the end of the first all-nighter i pulled where i just got post creation done, unaware of the three weeks that would follow — like looking at the roadmap i'm definitely not done but bbycll is like actually kind of usable now o.o

@bender@twtxt.net just a heads up im thinking of rewriting the database schema with hash v2 in mind >.<

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In-reply-to » wait....so i'm like nearly done? it just works? and it's fast? this feels like the end of the first all-nighter i pulled where i just got post creation done, unaware of the three weeks that would follow — like looking at the roadmap i'm definitely not done but bbycll is like actually kind of usable now o.o

@zvava@twtxt.net oh?! I shall play more “seriously” with it soon then. Yay!

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In-reply-to » wait....so i'm like nearly done? it just works? and it's fast? this feels like the end of the first all-nighter i pulled where i just got post creation done, unaware of the three weeks that would follow — like looking at the roadmap i'm definitely not done but bbycll is like actually kind of usable now o.o

@zvava@twtxt.net The first version of what is now yarnd was built over a weekend 😀

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ok so i have found a genuine twt hash collision. what do i do.

internally, bbycll relies on a post lookup table with post hashes as keys, this is really fast but i knew i’d inevitably run into this issue (just not so soon) so now i have to either:
  1) pick the newer post over the other
  2) break from specification and not lowercase hashes
  3) secretly associate canonical urls or additional entropy with post hashes in the backend without a sizeable performance impact somehow

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In-reply-to » @lyse no, as mentioned this "diagonal arrow" eye shape, is usually used for a smug expression. The optional white part, is in this case, where the dogs sclera would be visible, while they have their eyes, like this. Here is a comparison between a real dog, making the face it is based on, and the exaggerated drawn version. Media

Thanks, @thecanine@twtxt.net. It’s completely horizontal, I don’t see any diagonals. Anyway, it’s great art, happy drawing!

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In-reply-to » Drawn based on a quick doodle, the canine returns victorious, from the battle of Hot Topic bargain bin, as smug as can be. Whoever will be the first to inform him, the spikes aren't real gold and it's most likely not even leather, meaning it's not what he's really been searching the universe for, better prepare themselves, to be jumped on, bitten and shredded by claws. Media

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org no, as mentioned this “diagonal arrow” eye shape, is usually used for a smug expression. The optional white part, is in this case, where the dogs sclera would be visible, while they have their eyes, like this.
Here is a comparison between a real dog, making the face it is based on, and the exaggerated drawn version.

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In-reply-to » Drawn based on a quick doodle, the canine returns victorious, from the battle of Hot Topic bargain bin, as smug as can be. Whoever will be the first to inform him, the spikes aren't real gold and it's most likely not even leather, meaning it's not what he's really been searching the universe for, better prepare themselves, to be jumped on, bitten and shredded by claws. Media

@thecanine@twtxt.net Yeah, what @bender@twtxt.net said. That tail is sick. Is this dog crying, though? The vertically elongated eye looks a bit like a tear running down.

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In-reply-to » Drawn based on a quick doodle, the canine returns victorious, from the battle of Hot Topic bargain bin, as smug as can be. Whoever will be the first to inform him, the spikes aren't real gold and it's most likely not even leather, meaning it's not what he's really been searching the universe for, better prepare themselves, to be jumped on, bitten and shredded by claws. Media

@thecanine@twtxt.net super well done! I especially love that tail. I can almost see it moving!

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Drawn based on a quick doodle, the canine returns victorious, from the battle of Hot Topic bargain bin, as smug as can be.
Whoever will be the first to inform him, the spikes aren’t real gold and it’s most likely not even leather, meaning it’s not what he’s really been searching the universe for, better prepare themselves, to be jumped on, bitten and shredded by claws.

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In-reply-to » @lyse that's an amazing way to teach, and one many old school (I remember my father telling me "schools need to teach both theoretical and practical skills!") people will agree with. The fact that graduates need to learn on the job after they graduate exemplifies the importance of hands on.

@bender@twtxt.net Absolutely. My computer science teacher was really great and in a lot of aspects very similar. Especially combining the theoretical and practical parts. He’s also the main reason I ended up where I am today. I’m very grateful to him. Mr. Burger, however, takes this on a whole new level.

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In-reply-to » we are now parsing and recursively fetching remote feeds somewhat successfully, gotta work on the media proxy and markdown way more, so so many fucky edgecases....my friend's feed with like four posts parsed correctly so i tried this account's feed and well now im not going to bed on time

@zvava@twtxt.net this is so cool…

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In-reply-to » we are now parsing and recursively fetching remote feeds somewhat successfully, gotta work on the media proxy and markdown way more, so so many fucky edgecases....my friend's feed with like four posts parsed correctly so i tried this account's feed and well now im not going to bed on time

@zvava@twtxt.net please be sure to get enough rest!!! you’ll be able to make something even better if you’re well rested :)

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In-reply-to » Woooooaaaahh, that's bloody amazing! I wish I'd had a teacher like that.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org that’s an amazing way to teach, and one many old school (I remember my father telling me “schools need to teach both theoretical and practical skills!”) people will agree with. The fact that graduates need to learn on the job after they graduate exemplifies the importance of hands on.

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In-reply-to » @lyse retwts are a discovery feature! on federated platforms with no algorithm where you only ever see posts from accounts you explicitly follow, the element of "hey look at this!" helps users to find other accounts they might like organically

@zvava@twtxt.net Yeah, mentions are a great way to discover other feeds.

Regarding the “look at this, but I don’t want to add anything at all”, this never happened to me. Apparently, it seems to be a thing for others.

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In-reply-to » we are now parsing and recursively fetching remote feeds somewhat successfully, gotta work on the media proxy and markdown way more, so so many fucky edgecases....my friend's feed with like four posts parsed correctly so i tried this account's feed and well now im not going to bed on time

@zvava@twtxt.net it is amazing how much you have accomplished in such a short time. Take time to sleep, though! :-)

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In-reply-to » @zvava I am getting [2025/09/11 12:56:01.816] ⇒ please set config.host when trying to run "bbycll". How to bypass that tiny hurdle?

@bender@twtxt.net ty for attempting to test, though, it means a lot! lmk if u find any more silly things i need to clarify or fix :> be prepared for everything breaking during beta :p

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In-reply-to » @zvava I am getting [2025/09/11 12:56:01.816] ⇒ please set config.host when trying to run "bbycll". How to bypass that tiny hurdle?

@bender@twtxt.net i also recently discovered there was a bug causing new users to initialize wrong leading to their posts not being saved :p ..and made breaking changes to how the config and database files are stored so um, make sure to clear your local tree before updating!

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In-reply-to » @zvava I am getting [2025/09/11 12:56:01.816] ⇒ please set config.host when trying to run "bbycll". How to bypass that tiny hurdle?

@bender@twtxt.net as the host (eg twtxt.net) determines the canonical url of the instance in generated feed url metadata as well as every hash of every post made on the instance internally, i added this error message to make sure people don’t accidentally set up their instance on localhost :p for testing i set it to localhost:31212 and protocols to ["http"], it’s a recent addition that could definitely do with documenting in the getting started section

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