@movq@www.uninformativ.de OK, I am on request/question asking mode today. 😋 How do you cancel a twt, or a reply to a twt? Say I hit my reply, and then I change my mind? Right now, even exiting vi is creating an empty line on my twtxt.txt. Is there an obvious way to cancel a twt, reply, or fork that I am missing?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de

If Subject contains the full twt, then you can skim over conversations just by reading those lines in mutt’s index pager

Yes, I do the same, true.

So I decided: Okay, let’s have mutt do it.

And Mutt does it well. I agree it was/is a good idea.

The subject lines are already “compressed”

I noticed, yes.

I am not sure why I asked to begin with; in retrospect, in was a silly request. Perhaps the OCD in me got triggered while viewing rich headers, on a specific twt, when I saw the huge subject line that is, otherwise, always hidden.

Anyway, don’t mind me, move along. 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net
Jenny populates Mutt’s subject with the entire twt. That makes for very, very long subject lines.

@stackeffect@twtxt.stackeffect.de
I am seeing this characters on your twts: )?â\200¨â\200¨. Which client are you using?

@stigatle@twtxt.net
A twtxt client would be nice! Or a very simple cgi script to print twts to web nicely—not a second Yarn, just something to show twts in a pretty form on the web.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Fair enough, I will modify my cron job to match. When I come across edited twts, I just delete both knowing jenny will fetch the right one next iteration. I like keeping things tidy. 😊

@movq@www.uninformativ.de what is your cron job repeat time for jenny? Currently I have mine to every minute, and while it allows me to participate fairly quick on conversations it has some drawbacks: it captures every single edited twt, so I end up with seemingly the same twt, but not quite—as it has minor edits, etc. So, “repeats”. Perhaps setting cron to check every 5 minutes or so is best?

Now, if there is going to be some sort of price, which for me equals to profit, then I will twt non-stop until I hit it! 🤣

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
Just as jlj, that is exactly what I meant. Good point, Lyse!

Apple Event for 18 October 2021, 10:00 PDT, 13:00 EDT begins. Commentary will stream as replies to this twt. I might miss things here and there, as I will also be on a work meeting from 13:00 to 14:00 EDT.

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
While at it, fix this one too? You have me at netbros.com, but I am somewhere else. 😆

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
Your avatar is healthy on your pod now. Still doesn’t show well on twtxt.net, but it is just a matter of time now (caching, etc.), it is all good. 🎉

I am noticing that Yarn doesn’t treat “outside” (that is, twts coming from a client other than Yarn) twts hashes right. Two examples:

• https://twtxt.net/twt/mwtnrna
  
• https://twtxt.net/twt/fl5dooq
  

There are many more, but those two will give you the gist. Yarn links the hash to the poster’s twtxt.txt, so conversation matching will not work.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Unless you are stripping stuff on your twts, there is no much to implement. Things will be bold , italics , underlined , and so on, on a client that can render them. Since jenny uses Mutt, I can use my own regex in it to color them as I like. That’s pretty much it.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de But it makes sense, right? I spend way too much time trying to figure out who replied to whom. I treat twts replies as emails, pretty much.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de 12,342 twts, totalling 6.2 MB. Would deleting help, or will they come back? I guess there is one way to find out! 😄

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, how do you handle twts in Mutt? I mean, how do you organise, or manage the inmense amount that comes throught? Do you delete/trim? Move things to folders? Or simply keep that huge (12,000+ for me now) list?

@prologic@twtxt.net Excellent, nothing broke. I think what happened was you replied to a twt that I was in the process of editing.

I wonder how can I set, on Mutt, a shorter subject (elipsed) on the status bar, while reading a email (or a twt).

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk LOL, thanks! I have always been a fan of the Ferengi, and Quark, in particular. I think only Rom gets closer to him.

How would jenny handle multiline twts? Let’s find out! - One - Two - Three And: 1. One 2. Two 3. Three

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I will re-enable the cron job, test again, and provide the information. The twts that were showing duplicated are those I have sent. When it occurred, I noticed the Message-Ids were different.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, what will I need to do so that the timestamp for twts reflects local time. Right now it is UTC. Can it be done, or is that something from the twtxt spec?

Seeing repeated twts again. Only thing I am doing different is running jenny every 5 minutes on a cron job. I really don’t know what to think.

@prologic@twtxt.net Maybe it could be as a twt with a time far i n the future

@prologic@twtxt.net I mean pin as in having a specific twt displayed at the top of my feed always.

@adi@f.adi.onl Hi there! 👋🏻You are the first one replying to twt on this feed, thank you! I shall reward you with season’s symbols: 🍁🍂

I need someone with a nice, and clean twtxt.txt feed. One that doesn’t include much–if any–images, and in which twts have more content. Just looking to see how formatting is handled in jenny and how to tweak it to my liking.

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk I like your website’s look, but i was disappointed to find that ‘finger’ doesn’t seem to actually work. ;-)

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @prologic@twtxt.net 👋 keeping busy. Been working like crazy to put away for a down payment on a new house. Summer is looking to be even more.

@prologic@twtxt.net @jlj@twt.nfld.uk @movq@www.uninformativ.de

 /p/tmp > git clone https://www.uninformativ.de/git/lariza.git                                                                                                    Mon May 24 23:48:18 2021
Cloning into 'lariza'...
 /p/tmp > tree lariza/                                                                                                                                    12.5s  Mon May 24 23:48:32 2021
lariza/
├── BUGS
├── CHANGES
├── LICENSE
├── Makefile
├── PATCHES
├── README
├── browser.c
├── man1
│   ├── lariza.1
│   └── lariza.usage.1
├── user-scripts
│   └── hints.js
└── we_adblock.c

2 directories, 11 files

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk excellent! We could add a translate twt for twts of another language to the UI with this.

@xuu@txt.sour.is Is this of any use? https://libretranslate.com/ – Congrats on the new job!

@prologic@twtxt.net @adi@twtxt.net @jlj@twt.nfld.uk @readfog I too would love to see the “internal” package decrease and clearly defined / modular packages increase.

@thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io @jlj@twt.nfld.uk in old school terminal jargon the ^H means control H or the sequence used in some terminals to indicate backspace. The “joke” is that the term failed to interpret it correctly and you can see the partially typed word before they changed it.

Hey @xuu@txt.sour.is another mention that didn’t render ☝️

@thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io Hey! It’s easy. Just install the twt CLI with something like:

go get github.com/jointwt/twtxt/cmd/twt/...

Then use it in some hooks/scripts to post some content to your Pod.

@prologic@twtxt.net we would want:

• a way to reply to the current thread. We have this.
  
• a way to reply to a specific twt. Need this. Maybe make all the replies start new conversations?
  
• check if twt is start of a conversation.. we kinda have this in the main feed with the conversation button. need to extend it for forked convs
  
• a way to inline first replies. maybe show one or two in the sub thread with a link to view.
  
• for convenience have a link to parent conv?

@prologic@twtxt.net speaking of complexity.. How would checking twts for sub conversations complexify things?

@prologic@twtxt.net speaking of complexity.. How would checking twts for sub conversations complexify things?

@prologic@twtxt.net @jlj@twt.nfld.uk @thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io https://gist.github.com/JonLundy/fb2a23c003be46c3a66e4b14e5971f13

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @thewismit@twtxt.psynergy.io Custom Pod Logos are now available with PR 358 🎉 if you’d like to checkout this PR on your pods and recompile and let me know how it goes that would be swell 👌

@xuu@txt.sour.is @jlj@twt.nfld.uk @hxii@0xff.nu only if you look at the raw text file https://0xff.nu/blog.txt

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk oh dang the reply didnt add the reply. It was to @hxii@0xff.nu because Firefox shows his shruggy like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@prologic@twtxt.net @thewismit@blog.thewismit.com () possible, or a pod following any feeds it finds, if any one follows or not. So it has more twts cached

@prologic @darch Thank you for making twt.social etc:) I don’t think I have been this involed in a open source project before.

@prologic@twtxt.net that would be an interesting idea. I think your current spec of using an SMTP proto is probably best for DM.

but having a federation of IRC servers would be interesting for realtime twt propagation.

Twtxt is still very much alive and well. I just wrote a quick tool to crawl as much of the Twtxt network as I could and here’s what the results are:

Crawled 516 feeds
Found 52464 twts

That means there are >500 unique Twtxt feeds/users, and over ~52k Twts posted to date. 😳

@prologic@twtxt.net sounds about right. I tend to try to build my own before pulling in libs. learn more that way. I was looking at using it as a way to build my twt mirroring idea. and testing the lex parser with a wide ranging corpus to find edge cases. (the pgp signed feeds for one)

I just built a poc search engine / crawler for Twtxt. I managed to crawl this pod (twtxt.net) and a couple of others (sorry @etux@twt.u53.us and @xuu@txt.sour.is I used your pods in the tests too!). So far so good. I might keep going with this and see what happens 😀

@prologic@twtxt.net kinda.. It can parse the twts into an AST.. but most of the formatting out expects a string to do regex over rather then the parsed AST. thats what i am working out next.