@prologic@twtxt.net @carsten@yarn.zn80.net
There is (I assure you there will be, donât know what it is yetâŚ) a price to be paid for this convenience.
Exactly prologic, and thatâs why Iâm negative about these sorts of things. Iâm almost 50, Iâve been around this tech hype cycle a bunch of times. Look at what happened with Facebook. When it first appeared, people loved it and signed up and shared incredibly detailed information about themselves on it. Facebook made it very easy and convenient for almost anyone, even people who had limited understanding of the internet or computers, to get connected with their friends and family. And now here we are today, where 80% of people in surveys say they donât trust Facebook with their private data, where they think Facebook commits crimes and should be broken up or at least taken to task in a big way, etc etc etc. Facebook has been fined many billions of dollars and faces endless federal lawsuits in the US alone for its horrible practices. Yet Facebook is still exploitative. Itâs a societal cancer.
All signs suggest this generative AI stuff is going to go exactly the same way. That is the inevitable course of these things in the present climate, because the tech sector is largely run by sociopathic billionaires, because the tech sector is not regulated in any meaningful way, and because the tech press / tech media has no scruples. Some new tech thing generates hype, people get excited and sign up to use it, then when the people who own the tech think they have a critical mass of users, they clamp everything down and start doing whatever it is they wanted to do from the start. Theyâll break laws, steal your shit, cause mass suffering, who knows what. They wonât stop until they are stopped by mass protest from us, and the government action that follows.
Thatâs a huge price to pay for a little bit of convenience, a price we pay and continue to pay for decades. We all know better by now. Why do we keep doing this to ourselves? It doesnât make sense. Itâs insane.
I have to write so many emails to so many idiots who have no idea what they are doing
So it sounds to me like the pressure is to reduce how much time you waste on idiots, which to my mind is a very good reason to use a text generator! I guess in that case you donât mind too much whether the company making the AI owns your prompt text?
Iâd really like to see tools like this that you can run on your desktop or phone, so they donât send your hard work off to someone else and give a company a chance to take it from you.
@prologic@twtxt.net @carsten@yarn.zn80.net
(1) You go to the store and buy a microwave pizza. You go home, put it in the microwave, heat it up. Maybe itâs not quite the way you like it, so you put some red pepper on it, maybe some oregano.
Are you a pizza chef? No. Do we know what your cooking is like? Also no.
(2) You create a prompt for StableDiffusion to make a picture of an elephant. What pops out isnât quite to your liking. You adjust the prompt, tweak it a bunch, till the elephant looks pretty cool.
Are you an artist? No. Do we know what your art is like? Also no.
The elephant is âfake artâ in a similar sense to how a microwave pizza is âfake pizzaâ. Thatâs what I meant by that word. The microwave pizza is a sort of âsimulation of pizzaâ, in this sense. The generated elephant picture is a simulation of art, in a similar sense, though itâs even worse than that and is probably more of a simulacrum of art since you canât âconsumeâ an AI-generated image the way you âconsumeâ art.
@carsten@yarn.zn80.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I also think it is best called fake. Art is created by human beings, for human beings. It mediates a relationship between two people, and is a means of expression.
A computer has no inner life, no feelings, no experience of the world. It is not sentient. It has no life. Thereâs nothing âinâ there for it to express. Itâs just generating pixels in patterns weâve learned to recognize. These AI technologies are carefully crafted to fool people into experiencing the things they experience when they look at human-made art, but it is an empty experience.
@carsten@yarn.zn80.net Who says you need to use anything like that? Whereâs the pressure coming from?
@carsten@yarn.zn80.net yeesh, itâs a for-pay company I wouldnât give them the output of your mind for free and train their AI for them.
@xuu@txt.sour.is this is alarmingly catchy
@xuu@txt.sour.is everyoneâs moving to gated communities!
@prologic@twtxt.net ack, I didnât see this before. Get well soon!
ChatGPT and Elasticsearch: OpenAI meets private data | Elastic Blog
Terrifying. Elasticsearch is celebrating that theyâre going to send your private data to OpenAI? No way.
@prologic@twtxt.net Iâm a bit of a GPU junkie (đł) and I have 3, 2019-era GPUs lying around. One of these days when I have Free Time⢠Iâll put those together into some kind of clusterâŚ.
yarnd
, tt
, jenny
, twtr
and other clients? đ¤ Thinking about (and talking with @xuu on IRC) about the possibility of rewriting a completely new spec (no extensions). Proposed name yarn.txt
or "Yarn". Compatibility would remain with Twtxt in the sense that we wouldn't break anything per se, but we'd divorce ourselves from Twtxt and be free to improve based on the needs of the community and not the ideals of those that don't use, contribute in the first place or fixate on nostalgia (which doesn't really help anyone).
@darch@neotxt.dk yes!
@prologic@twtxt.net yeah. Iâd add âBig Dataâ to that hype list, and Iâm sure there are a bunch more that Iâm forgetting.
On the topic of a GPU cluster, the optimal design is going to depend a lot on what workloads you intend to run on it. The weakest link in these things is the data transfer rate, but that wonât matter too much for compute-heavy workloads. If your workloads are going to involve a lot of data, though, youâd be better off with a smaller number of high-VRAM cards than with a larger number of interconnected cards. I guess thatâs hardware engineering 101 stuff, but stillâŚ
yarnd
, tt
, jenny
, twtr
and other clients? đ¤ Thinking about (and talking with @xuu on IRC) about the possibility of rewriting a completely new spec (no extensions). Proposed name yarn.txt
or "Yarn". Compatibility would remain with Twtxt in the sense that we wouldn't break anything per se, but we'd divorce ourselves from Twtxt and be free to improve based on the needs of the community and not the ideals of those that don't use, contribute in the first place or fixate on nostalgia (which doesn't really help anyone).
@prologic@twtxt.net I would politely suggest again that we not react to people with bad attitudes who talk shit about yarn. If twt is forked, it should be forked to add features that are otherwise not possible. Not to appease people who will probably never be appeased.
On LinkedIn I see a lot of posts aimed at software developers along the lines of âIf youâre not using these AI tools (X,Y,Z) youâre going to be left behind.â
Two things about that:
- No youâre not. If you have good soft skills (good communication, show up on time, general time management) then youâre already in excellent shape. No AI can do that stuff, and for that alone no AI can replace people
- This rhetoric is coming directly from the billionaires who are laying off tech people by the 100s of thousands as part of the class war theyâve been conducting against all working people since the 1940s. They want you to believe that you have to scramble and claw over one another to learn the âAIâ that theyâre forcing onto the world, so that you stop honing the skills that matter (see #1) and are easier to obsolete later. Donât fall for it. Itâs far from clear how this will shake out once governments get off their asses and start regulating this stuff, by the wayâmost of these âAIâ tools are blatantly breaking copyright and other IP laws, and some day thatâll catch up with them.
That said, it is helpful to know thy enemy.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Cheers! Iâm happy to agree to disagree too of course! Thanks for engaging!
@xuu@txt.sour.is That has no relevance to the point!
Like, check it out. That link to DRY? It doesnât render as a link in the webapp. However, it does render as a link, and works fine, in Goryon. Iâve seen before that Markdown tables render fine in Goryon but not in the webapp. They ought to behave as similarly as possible, right? So just in this small interaction there are three discrepancies between how the mobile app and webapp render Markdown.
@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de this is the default behavior of pass
on my machine:
I add a new password entry named example
and then type pass example
. The password I chose, âtestâ, is displayed in cleartext. This is very bad default behavior. I donât know about the other clis you both mentioned but Iâll check them out.
The browser plugin browserpass
does the same kind of thing, though I have already removed it and Iâm not going to reinstall it to make a movie. Next to each credential thereâs an icon to copy the username to the clipboard, an icon to copy the password to the clipboard, and then an icon to view details, which shows you everything, including the password, in cleartext. The screencap in the Chrome store is out of date; it doesnât show the offending link to show all details, which I know is there because I literally installed it today and played with it.
@xuu@txt.sour.is yeah, I know less about ISO27k (in part because you have to pay for access to the complete standards documents!!!), but I figured it was similar.
And in the latest âdonât store your passwords in the cloudâ news, NortonLifeLock warns that hackers breached Password Manager accounts
@xuu@txt.sour.is that doesnât seem to fit the spirit of the spec, at least by my read (I could be wrong obv). The example on Wikipediaâs webfinger page,
{
"subject": "acct:bob@example.com",
"aliases": [
"https://www.example.com/~bob/"
],
"properties": {
"http://example.com/ns/role": "employee"
},
"links": [{
"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/profile-page",
"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/"
},
{
"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/businesscard",
"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/bob.vcf"
}
]
}
and then the comparison with how mastodon uses webfinger,
{
"subject": "acct:Mastodon@mastodon.social",
"aliases": [
"https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon",
"https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
],
"links": [
{
"rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
"type": "text/html",
"href": "https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon"
},
{
"rel": "self",
"type": "application/activity+json",
"href": "https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
},
{
"rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe",
"template": "https://mastodon.social/authorize_interaction?uri={uri}"
}
]
}
suggests to me you want to leave the subject
/acct
bit as is (donât add prefixes) and put extra information you care to include in the links
section, where youâre free to define the rel
URIs however you see fit. The notion here is that webfinger is offering a mapping from an account name to additional information about that account, so if anything youâd use a "subject": "acct:SALTY ACCOUNT_REPRESENTATION"
line in the JSON to achieve what youâre saying if you donât want to do that via links
.
@prologic@twtxt.net I started to write a snarky twt about Kafka and then deleted it because I didnât want to be too negative đ
Might play with this at work next week.
I guess Google Hangouts is finally dead.
Why is Google such a mess at making messaging apps? This has more or less been a solved problem for decades. Google Talk worked well enough, and since it was based on XMPP and Jingle it was perfectly suited to become a large-scale text/voice/video messaging system. If theyâd run with that theyâd have been able to dominate that space, I think. Instead, theyâve created and shitcanned half a dozen messaging apps and platforms, flailing around copying someone elseâs app (now theyâre trying to copy Slack I guess).
@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @xuu@txt.sour.is hello! @prologic@twtxt.net and I were chatting about the question of globally deleting twts from the yarn.social network. @prologic@twtxt.net noted that he could build the tools and endpoints to delete twts, but some amount of cooperation from pod operators would be necessary to make it all work together. He asked me to spawn a discussion of the subject here, so here we are!
I donât have enough technical knowledge of yarn.social to say with any credibility how it all should work, but I can say that I think it ought to be possible and itâd be good to do for those rare times when itâs needed.
I was inclined to let this go so as not to stir anything up, but after some additional thought Iâve decided to call it out. This twt:
is exactly the kind of ad hominem garbage I came to expect from Twitterâ˘, and Iâm disappointed to see it replicated here. Rummaging through someoneâs background trying to find a âgotchaâ argument to take credibility away from what a person is saying, instead of engaging the ideas directly, is what trolls and bad faith actors do. Thatâs what the twt above does (falsely, I might addâwhatâs being claimed is untrue).
If you take issue with something Iâve said, you can mute me, unfollow me, ignore me, use TamperMonkey to turn all my twts into gibberish, engage the ideas directly, etc etc etc. There are plenty of options to make what I said go away. Reading through my links, reading about my organizationâs CEOâs background, and trying to use that against me somehow (after misinterpreting it no less)? Besides being unacceptable in a rational discussion, and besides being completely ineffective in stopping me from expressing whatever it is you didnât like, itâs creepy. Donât do that.
@xuu@txt.sour.is proof of stake = people with money get more money. It accelerates the wealth inequality problems that are already plaguing us. Crypto has even worse wealth inequality than fiat currency systems, which is 100% predictable.
@brasshopper@twtxt.net bitcoin 𤎠thatâs a hard no from me
I just resurrected a laptop that had been off for about six months and it needs 585 package updates.
Stumbled on WebID today. Besides being confusing, it doesnât work on the site I tinkered with and it seems to be mostly abandoned?