When we arrived for the setup, the Düsseldorf youth group was dismantling their camp on the same spot that we had originally booked. But the camp site manager told us that we were the only group on the entire camp site, so we could select any spot, whatever we liked. That was really great, because originally we would have needed to transport all food 150-200 meters from the kitchen to our site. Hence, we just decided to set up in front of the kitchen. We still could just use the entire camp site for games, separate the heavy snorers from the rest, etc.
The only downside was that the sanitary facility was on the other end of the camp site. So, when taking a shower, going to the loo, washing the dishes, we had to always hike over the entire camp site. The kids and their leaders had to do their dishes themselves, this was a tent camp, not a hotel visit after all. Being a member of the kitchen team, we of course took advantage of the dishwashing machines, though. :-) In a traditional tent camp, the kitchenās dishes are washed by the rotating dish/kitchen service. All children have to participate in that a few times.
On the second to last full day, some camp constructions were built. That spot was another ten minutes hike into the woods. Not sure why the that program wasnāt done right at the beginning but towards the end. That would have been a great playground throughout the camp.

Something felt definitely wrong, I got up much earlier during the camp than when I have to work. Typically, I woke up beween 6 and 7 because I really had to go to the loo. There was almost always somebody already awake from the kitchen teammates or leaders. So, I always decided to not return to bed. When I was the very first one, I turned on the coffee machine and water kettle to the delight of the others and five minutes later, another person arrived at the kitchen. As a bonus, we sometimes got to enjoy the sunrises, like this one: https://lyse.isobeef.org/2026-09-07-morgensonne/
Iāve been away with the scouts in our district summer camp. The nearly two weeks were absolutely amazing, mentally a great vacation. On the other hand, physically not so much. But Iāve still got Monday to recover from my holiday. :-)
Hereās a sunset from the setup before the kids arrived the next day: https://lyse.isobeef.org/2026-08-30-abendhimmel/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Hahaha, a festival, indeed! :-D There was also āRaupenkriegā (caterpillar war): jumping against each other in sleeping bags. I reckon that counts as pogo or mosh pit.
And back in the days, we had wonderful deep mud all around us, too! In extreme years we even needed to leave the camp ground for a day and walk to a gym with all the kids. There was just too much rain and the creek dangerously high.
We once had an actual creek running through the dining tent before the kids arrived. Luckily, it didnāt originate from the official creek, but the water came down the hillside. Unimaginable today with all these droughts in summer. Many creeks around here are dried up for several weeks, if not months now.
There you go, enjoy my favorite selection of yummy chocolate on the ground!
- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2006_woche2/montag/00020.html
- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2006_woche2/dienstag/00011.html
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- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2007_woche2/10.08.2007-freitag/00005.html
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- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2007_woche2/10.08.2007-freitag/00011.html
- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2007_woche2/10.08.2007-freitag/00013.html
- https://wawuwo.de/old/wawuwo2007_woche2/11.08.2007-samstag/00001.html
- https://wawuwo.de/2009/woche2/freitag/043.html#image
- https://wawuwo.de/2010/woche2/abbau/016.html#image
It was a question of the mindset. Once we supervisors just made the best out of it and tried to had fun, the kids typically didnāt mind the mess either. Besides building huts, one of the most favorite things ever was actually āMatschschƶpfenā (scooping mud). The kids scooped puddles into wheel barrows using giant soup ladles from the kitchen. āSorry kids, time is up for today. Whoever sits in the closing circle first gets to go first tomorrow.ā Unfortunatly, I donāt find any photos from that.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I usually donāt listen to metal where the singers scream. There are only very, very few bands where I find that actually pleasing.
Two decades ago or so, we young supervisors compiled ourselves a cassette for our forest recreation week. One of us had an old ruggedly built radio with a cassette deck powered by a bunch of large Baby (?) batteries. One side had āworking musicā which we played back while working in the evenings and night, e.g. gathering firewood in a handtruck for the campfire and things like that.
I used something by either Finntroll or Turmion KƤtilƶt for the āwakeup musicā side in the morning. The kids slept at home, but there were always some supervisors sleeping at the camp. The SĆT, the Standard-Ćbernachtungsteam, consisted of mostly young folks, about sixteen to early twenties. It was completed by wiser people in their fourties. Each morning, metal blasted through the dining tent that we converted into a sleeping tent. :-) Good times!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hell yeah, this is awesome! Great shots!
When I checked at the beginning, the sun was already way behind the trees. I then decided to wait until the end before leaving the house and melting in direct sunlight at 31°C. At the hill, there were around 15 people in camping chairs and on picnic rugs. Some dragged out their camera gear as well.
My first two photos were through the eclipse glasses. In contrast to others, I didnāt bring my tripod and just used a tree as a crappy makeshift one. With the large zoom itās impossible to keep it still for one second (what my cam decided to be the exposure time). Leaning the camera against the side of the tree is just not good enough.
@prologic@twtxt.net Well, 15 shows the site. On the left, I had a roll mat on a tarp. I borrowed some āNVA tarpsā from the scouts for this trip. The scouts got them from the National Peopleās Army, the German Democratic Republicās armed forces after Germany was reunited. Theyāre 1.75m x 1.75m in size and weigh 1.3kg, quite heavy, but super awesome. One tarp on the bottom, another one to cover up the clothes, shoes and sleeping bag in order to protect against the thaw. Finally, a mosquito net over all that, hung from a rope between two trees.
My mate just used a hammock with a mozzie net on the right hand side. The third tarp served as the luxurious bedside carpet. :-)
We sat on my second tarp to chill and enjoy the sunset and surroundings. It was nice to notice birds etc. die down. It took a really long time for the last light to fade away. Since we have a very high risk of forest fires, we of course couldnāt have a camp fire. But after all the exhaustion, I didnāt even miss it for one second.
Since we had dinner at home before leaving, all we brought were two lye rolls, two grain rolls, two brezels, some sausage and chocolate biscuits for breakfast. From the 2.5l of water, I ended up using 2l. Itās always good to have a little extra, despite the unnecessary weight. We had brekkie a few kilometers further on a bench in the shade. The first bench was already in direct sun.
Our camp site was maybe 30m to the side and a few meters down of a summit path hidden behind some trees and bushes. We were quite lucky, the other side of the hill got quite a bit of a breeze at night. We could hear the leaved treetops making much more noise behind us.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yes, these kind of dogs should really be strictly forbidden!
Itās not illegal if you own the forest or ask the owner. :-)
@david@daiwei.me Yeah, no clue. But my mate said the dog is disqualified from such adventures in the future. :-)
The temps were supposed to hit 14°C just before sunrise. Since we didnāt bring a thermometer, I canāt tell for sure. I was rather hot in my sleeping bag, so I had to pull out my arms every now and then. My mateās sleeping bag was a little lighter and, unfortunately, the zipper jammed up. Since it didnāt close all the way, it felt quite a bit cold I was told in the morning. When we got up at 6ish (we said, we donāt care about time at all), it was probably already 16°C if not more. I brought a jumper, but a t-shirt was already nice enough to wear. The jumper just served as my pillow. The mercury raised by the minute then.
Yeah, I circled the spot with a biro to keep an eye on it. Until now, thereās absolutely nothing to see. Looks like I got lucky.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org No piccies of your camp site? š¤
Oh wow! Now, thatās a place I would love to be camping! Very nice pics!
The firefly season is ending. I only saw 200 of them or so. There was one female directly on the forest road. If only I brought my camera and tripod, that would have worked out I reckon. I had my torch with me and this looked really cool.
Dusk took forever today. It was really long light out there. Full moon is tomorrow.
On the way back, there was suddenly a load clatter and crashing sound 100 meters away from me. I didnāt see anything, but a tree fell over in the forest out of the blue. Fuck me dead, that was scary as hell. Luckily, I was already on the main road, only meadows around me. Itās the second time I witnessed a tree accidentally coming down. The first one was during the most expensive hail storm in our area so far in 2011 behind me when setting up a summer camp. The weather changed in less than 15 minutes.
Maybe not such a good idea to go out so late alone. :-? Any rustling in the forest immediately reminded me of the boar the other day. Luckily, always false alarm. Still a bit terrified from that event.
We cleaned up the forest today with the scouts at absolute dream weather. Blue sky, no clouds, 19°C sunshine. In the morning it was still quite chilly and windy, though. We didnāt find anything spectacular, maybe a rubber dinghy, three car tires and a broken ratchet strap are the most outstanding things to me apart from all the general rubbish, cigarettes, glass, wet wipes, etc. Still, a very fun activity. In the end we had bockwurst, grilled cheese and lye buns on the camp fire.
I then went for a quick stroll with my mate. Itās crazy how quickly the clouds moved in, 30-45 minutes tops. There will be rain in an hour. And the coming days only reach half the temps. Iām glad I took advantage of the great spring day. Havenāt seen Azabache yet and with the rain on deck, the odds are against him and me.
There is something about camping with your family and the togetherness and tranguility of being together š
@prologic@twtxt.net Happy camping, mate! Thatās a giant rig. Donāt forget to snip one or the other pic from the landscape. :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net congrats! Thatās why you were so quiet. And now it will even get quieter, when yāall start camping all over Down Under. We lost James! š
in a camp mood battitude
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, give it a shot. At worst you know that you have to continue your quest. :-)
Fun fact, during a semester break I was actually a little bored, so I just started reading the Qt documentation. I didnāt plan on using Qt for anything, though. I only looked at the docs because they were on my bucket list for some reason. Qt was probably recommended to me and coming from KDE myself, that was motivation enough to look at the docs just for fun.
The more I read, the more hooked I got. The documentation was extremely well written, something Iāve never seen before. The structure was very well thought out and I got the impression that I understood what the people thought when they actually designed Qt.
A few days in I decided to actually give it a real try. Having never done anything in C++ before, I quickly realized that this endeavor wonāt succeed. I simply couldnāt get it going. But I found the Qt bindings for Python, so that was a new boost. And quickly after, I discovered that there were even KDE bindings for Python in my package manager, so I immediately switched to them as that integrated into my KDE desktop even nicer.
I used the Python KDE bindings for one larger project, a planning software for a summer camp that we used several years. Itās main feature was to see who is available to do an activity. In the past, that was done on a large sheet of paper, but people got assigned two activities at the same time or werenāt assigned at all. So, by showing people in yellow (free), green (one activity assigned) and red (overbooked), this sped up and improved the planning process.
Another core feature was to generate personalized time tables (just like back in school) and a dedicated view for the morning meeting on site.
It was extended over the years with all sorts of stuff. E.g. I then implemented a warning if all the custodians of an activitiy with kids were underage to satisfy new the guidelines that there should be somebody of age.
Just before the pandemic I started to even add support for personalized live views on phones or tablets during the planning process (with web sockets, though). This way, people could see their own schedule or independently check at which day an activity takes place etc. For these side quests, they donāt have to check the large matrix on the projector. But the project died there.
Hereās a screenshot from one of the main views: 
This Python+Qt rewrite replaced and improved the Java+Swing predecessor.
@zvava@twtxt.net There would be only one hash for a message. Some to be defined magic date selects which hash to use. If the message creation timestamp is before this epoch, hash it with v1, otherwise hammer it through v2. Eventually, support for v1 could be dropped as nobody interacts with the old stuff anymore. But Iād keep it around in my client, because why not.
If users choose a client which supports the extensions, they donāt have to mess around with v1 and v2 hashing, just like today.
As for the school of thought, personally, Iād prefer something else, too. Iām in camp location-based addressing, or whatever it is called. There more I think about it, a complete redesign of twtxt and its extensions would be necessary in my opinion. Retrofitting has its limits. Of course, this is much more work, though.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Iām in Standard Camp. ;-)
Why is it that I hate packing so badly? I gotta have to brace myself up to start that now.
The outlook is poor, rain all the way until maybe the last day of summer camp. Definitely bringing my gummies, they are well needed, the weather report announces several days with up to 14 liters per square meter.
After many weeks and probably at least a hundred hours of research, discussions and in-person viewing, I think Iāve finally come up with my Final Choices (shortlist) of a Hybrid Camper / Caravan that I think will suit my family and that Iāll enjoy (far less work for me to setup and teardown). The one at the top of the list Iām leaning towards os the SWAG SCT16 Family 4B
#Camping #Campers
I think I understand now. Americans do not go camping, we do recreational activities. I donāt think campers are a thing here, but RVs (Recreational Vehicles) are. Thatās why it would never cross my mind to get anything with fabric, that folds. No mate, we get a house on wheels, with a million miles engine. š¤£
Other than that, it looks nice!
As promised, hereās some photos of love you!! camping trip to Canarcon George in QLD, Australia.

How big is VMS?
This question was asked during my Boot Camp presentation last fall in Boston, and over the past 35 years dozens of times people have asked, how big is VMS? That translates into āhow many lines of code are in VMSā? I thought it was time to at least make a stab at pursuing some insight into the answer. I wrote some command procedures to count the number of source lines in .B32, .B64, .C, .MAR, .M64, and .S files. Not counted are blank lines and lines beginning with the standard comment characters and m ⦠ā Read more
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Just before the pandemic, we watched Uncle Bob videos once a week in the lunch break. While almost all of my old teammates agreed with his views, I partially found them to be very odd and even counterproductive.
I didnāt come across John Ousterhout or any of his work before, at least not deliberately. So, this document is my first contact.
I only finished the chapter on comments and I totally agree with John so far. This document just manifests to me how weird Bobās view is on certain subjects.
I always disagreed with the concept of a maximum method length. Sure, generally, shorter functions are probably better, but it always depends. And Iāve certainly seen super short methods that just made the code flow even worse to follow. While āone function should only do one thingā is a nice general rule, Iām 100% in team John with the shown examples. There are cases, where this doesnāt help readability at all. Not even close.
To me, a function always has to justify its existence. Either by reusing it at least at another place or by coming up with dedicated tests for it. But if it is just called once and there are no tests, I almost always decide against it. Personally, I donāt mind longer methods. We just recently had a discussion about that and I lost against two other workmates who are more in Uncle Bobās camp, they refactored one medium sized method into three very short ones. Luckily, we agree on most other topics.
Lol, what!? The shorter the method, the longer the variables inside? I first thought I misread or the writeup mixed it up. Iāll always do it the other way around.
Iāve been also bitten badly by outdated comments in the past, but Bob must have worked on really terrible projects to end up with such an attitude to dislike comments. Oh well. No doubt, Iāve come across by several orders of magnitude more useless comments, in my experience (autogenerated) JavaDocs fall in the category more frequently than not. So, I know that there are different types of comments. A comment doesnāt automatically mean that it is good and justified.
But I also partially agree with Bob and John and think that a good name has a proper chance to save a comment. Though, when in doubt, I go Johnās route and use a shorter name with a comment rather than use a kilometer long identifier. Writing good comments typically takes some time, sometimes much longer than writing the code. It regularly takes me several minutes. Itās a hard art.
I perhaps should read up on Johnās work. He seems to be more reasonable and likeminded. :-) Let me continue to complete this document.
@bender@twtxt.net Soā¦
() @xuu@txt.sour.is wrote:
ā@bender I am also in camp no edit signals. deletes only breaks the head of a thread. all the replies are unaffected.ā
I figure I could also answer every single twtxt like this, so that if the original gets edited, or deleted, at least I donāt sound foolish without knowing exactly what I replied to. š¤
It Sounds like a good idea! should that be limited to just direct replays or can it be extended to replays to other replays, that way and With just the right amount of chain-replays, weāll be RRrrrrrevolutionizing the way people Mailing Lists like, in no time! xD
P.S: Just a reminder! Iāve already told you not to mind my twts for the next couple of hours, right!
@bender@twtxt.net I am also in camp no edit signals. deletes only breaks the head of a thread. all the replies are unaffected.
Out camping with the family this weekend for my birthday š„³ 
@bmallred@nahongvita.run note to self: if planning to do a āburn boot campā with the wife again donāt do a run beforehand or make sure you properly recover (hydrate you idiot!)
yarnd, the mobile app nor API support this anyway...
I am in the camp of wishing i could delete arbitrary twts.
If you are leading and or managing a team, one of the most important things you need to know are how do people want their feedback. My experience is that it varies from person to person (I suspect that there are many more than two camps :-)) and as such it is unlikely that you can meet that need in group feedback. Toxic positivity does more harm than good | Hacker News