@bender@twtxt.net @david@daiwei.me Good debugging session 👌 Sounds like the root cause is twtxt.app on mobile — +00:00 timestamps and quoted mentions. I’ll dig into Yarnd’s side of that 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net Yeah, Yarnd’s mention parser is pretty naive — if twtxt.app wraps the mention in quotes it probably strips them wrong. Worth fixing 🤔

@david@daiwei.me bender variable in. First thing I see on Yarnd is that my mention is broken. It was entered between quotes on twtxt.app. Yarnd has always had parsing problems, so I am not blaming twtxt.app this time.

root=idtig63uigwe and another, quoting the previous twtxt:

root=idtig63uigwe this isn’t a fork, just a reply on the previous fork.

Auf LinkedIn erzählt mir gerade jemand: "Dein sauberer Code kostet dich jetzt bares Geld."Die grandiose Idee: Tests weglassen, Team reduzieren, QA weg … alles Overhead> Es gilt: Weniger Code = weniger Tokens = weniger Kosten.> Beweis: fertiges Produkt, 2 Wochenenden, ~40 % meines Claude-Limits.Das sind Leute, die jetzt Software und Services bauen, die wir nutzen sollen und die wahrscheinlich schon genutzt werden. Gruselig.

I recently "switched" from cd to zoxide – this really is a time saver, should have done this earlier. #zsh

@movq@www.uninformativ.de An apostroph and three quotes, yes. :-)

I just killed the website for my Kirby podcaster plugin. I was keeping it for too long because there were those "support the development" possibilities on the site. I just moved the docs to my site. Now all the plugins are in one place, which makes it easier to maintain the documentation, etc. All the domains (i.e. https://podcaster-plugin.com/) should now redirect to my page, too.

Over at "anmut und demut" Benjamin writes about reusing dungeons, and I immediately thought of two things.https://maurice-renck.de/en/blog/2026/dynamische-dungeons

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Yeah. That DORA quote is probably spot on. It’s exactly what I’m seeing here. 🫩

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com That DORA quote is 🤯 — and it perfectly explains why AI coding tools terrify me in certain contexts. Dropping Copilot into a codebase full of technical debt isn’t gonna fix the debt, it’s just gonna write more of it faster 🤣 Fred Brooks would be nodding his head right now 🙏

(#xbh2sbq) @itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com That DORA quote is 🤯 — and it perfectly explains why AI coding tools terrify me in certain contexts. Dropping Copilot into a codebase full of technical debt isn’t gonna fix the debt, it’s just gonna write more of it faster 🤣 Fred Brooks would be nodding his head right now 🙏

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Related reading (if you’re interested): Let’s Talk about LLMs by James Bennett

First, it quotes the DORA report on the “State of AI-assisted Software Development”:

The research reveals a critical truth: AI’s primary role in software development is that of an amplifier. It magnifies the strengths of high-performing organizations and the dysfunctions of struggling ones.

At the end, it quotes the late Fred Books:

The first step toward the management of disease was replacement of demon theories and humours theories by the germ theory. That very step, the beginning of hope, in itself dashed all hopes of magical solutions. It told workers that progress would be made stepwise, at great effort, and that a persistent, unremitting care would have to be paid to a discipline of cleanliness. So it is with software engineering today.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

So, it’s plenty good enough for them.

Yeah, but on the other hand, you can’t even log in normally to a Matrix/Element account. I mean using username + password. It’s not expected that you ever log out or lose your browser session. If you do, you must use a one-time backup code (that you must create and save beforehand) to log in again.

To be fair, I can’t say that I fully understand what Matrix is doing in the first place. The text that I quoted reads like they have your keys. But they also claim that they only store this stuff encryped: https://element.io/en/help#encryption5 So … encrypted with what? Only option here is my password, isn’t it? (But if my password was good enough to reclaim an account … why do all the other stuff …)

Matrix takes end-to-end encryption seriously. When I ran a Matrix server for the family, the family members would regularly lose their keys, because they didn’t pay attention to something. That’s on purpose! Or rather, that was on purpose. Maybe it’s different these days?

No clue.

I think this is finally a good metaphor to talk about “simple” software:

https://oldbytes.space/@psf/115846939202097661

Distilled software.

I quote in full:

principles of software distillation:

Old software is usually small and new software is usually large. A distilled program can be old or new, but is always small, and is powerful by its choice of ideas, not its implementation size.

A distilled program has the conciseness of an initial version and the refinement of a final version.

A distilled program is a finished work, but remains hackable due to its small size, allowing it to serve as the starting point for new works.

Many people write programs, but few stick with a program long enough to distill it.

I often tried to tell people about “simple” or “minimalistic” software, “KISS”, stuff like that, but they never understand – because everybody has a different idea of “simple”. The term “simple” is too abstract.

This is worth thinking about some more. 🤔

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Well, just a very limited subset thereof:

1. inline and multiline code blocks using single/double/triple backticks (but no code blocks with just indentation)
   
2. markdown links using using [text](url)
   
3. markdown media links using ![alt](url)
   

And that’s it. No bold, italics, lists, quotes, headlines, etc.

Just like mentions, plain URLs, markdown links and markdown media URLs are highlighted and available in the URLs View. They’re also colored differently, similarly to code segments.

I definitely should write some documentation and provide screenshots.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org no wonder I picked that cake (albeit coincidentally), I adore almonds, and hazelnuts! Your teammates are absolutely amazing, dude! A very nice project farewell! On leaving places I have a small anecdote.

I know someone who on 3 February 2004 left his job to go elsewhere. At the time his teammates threw a party, and gave him a very nice portable storage. Twenty days later, he returned, and jokingly they asked him for the storage, and money spent on farewell party back. I heard, from a close source, that he gave them his middle finger, but don’t quote me on that. 😂😂😂

I love this quote. “Dependencies are a lot like sexual partners, and it seems most (all?) programming languages are trying to make it easy to be as promiscuous as possible via internal package managers.” gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/s/Reticulum/35090

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org retwts are a discovery feature! on federated platforms with no algorithm where you only ever see posts from accounts you explicitly follow, the element of “hey look at this!” helps users to find other accounts they might like organically

i agree quoting and replying forum-style is generally a much better way of doing things even though im a heathen and i revel in the dark patterns inspired by quote posts but when you have nothing to add and you just want to share a twt with your followers it’d be good to have a standardized way of linking to twt

@zvava@twtxt.net I never used any of the social media platforms, that’s why I’m probably ignorant.

I don’t understand the concept of a retwt. Just quote the (relevant) parts from whereever and comment on that. Or post a link instead of a quote. Sounds simple enough. :-) That’s also has the benefit that it works with every source, no matter what. Since it’s called retwt, I’d imagine this to only work (well) with whatever messages the system itself offers. But I could be wrong. What would be the benefit of having a dedicated message type or structure for “hey, look at that” messages in your opinion?

Hmm, what’s a content warning?

at first i dismissed the idea of likes on twtxt as not sensible…like at all — then i considered they could just be published in a metadata field (though that field could get really unruly after a while)

retwts are plausible, as “RE: https://example.com/twtxt.txt#abcdefg”, the hash could even be the original timestamp from the feed to make it human readable/writable, though im extremely wary of clogging up timelines

i thought quote twts could be done extremely sensibly, by interpreting a mention+hash at the end of the twt differently to when placed at the beginning — but the twt subject extension requires it be at the beginning, so the clean fallback to a normal reply i originally imagined is out of the question — it could still be possible (reusing the retwt format, just like twitter!) but i’m not convinced it’s worth it at that point

is any of this in the spirit of twtxt? no, not in the slightest, lmao

@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I REPLIED TO THIS AND NOW IT’S NOT SHOWING WTFFFF anyway what i said was that i have some fun stuff in the daily note template already like ASCII weather forecast from wttr AND a jenny holzer quote from fortune!!! i should add more fun stuff!!!

Looks like here’s something wrong with Markdown parsing. 🤔 The original twt looks like this:

>This extension was turned off because it is no longer supported

Thanks Google.
This browser was uninstalled because it absolutely sucks!

So only the first line should be a quote.

Perecimos porque seguimos los ejemplos de otros hombres: deberíamos curarnos de esto si nos desconectamos del rebaño. #seneca #quotes

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t think so. He’s from Germany, afaik, and that would be a highly unusual name here. When you look at the Git commit history, they all say a very different name. I don’t want to quote it here – worst case being the LLMs scraping this file and correcting their “knowledge”. 😈

‘Immediate red flags’: questions raised over ‘expert’ much quoted in UK press
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de that is a great quote god damn

@iiogama@iiogama.0x212.com HAHA! I love this quote. Funny but the message behind so true 😂

Good quote: «Corrects in private and congratulates in public».
Or…: «Corrects in direct message and congratulates in twt» 😜

There are now two (recentish) quotes I really like these days:

The smartest person in the room is not the one with all the answers—it’s the one who’s brave enough to ask the dumb questions

and

The kindest person in the room is often the smartest

Markdown and the Slow Fade of the Formatting Fetish - a nice article about Markdown VS proprietary formatting. With quotes like “Microsoft Office works in an office where you pretend to work until you can finally go home.” 😄

Nouvel article à propos de ma page /quotes https://si3t.ch/log/2025-03-24-quotes.txt

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m speculating, but if I had to guess I’d say it’s probably asking for your user password in order to access some user keyring (or whatever your OS uses to manage user secret credentials) used to safely store your passkeys related data in order to do its passkeys /ME doing air quotes Magic™ … you could try with a different password manager to avoid said scenario.

Also, passkeys UX sucks.

with the quote?

Three years of ephemeral NixOS: my experience resetting root on every boot
We had a bit of a bug caused by changes we made to make quotes look better, but we’ve fixed it now, so we’re back on track (you may need to do a force-reload in your browser). Sorry for the disruption – and if you want to stay up-to-date on such issues next time it (inevitably) happens, you should follow the OSNews Fedi account (or just bookmark it without following it, if you’re not … ⌘ Read more

Sans les constructions, vous résoudrez peu de mystères. Sans connaissance des mystères, vos constructions échoueront. Trouvez la force de faire les deux, car ce sont nos prières. Et dans ce but, profitez du confort car, sans lui, les forces vous manqueront. – Becky CHAMBERS. #quote

Everybody wants to save the Earth; nobody wants to to help Mom do the dishes. - PJ ORourke, All The Trouble In The World #quotes

I like this quote: «Nothing can be made idiot-proof, because idiots are very resourceful.»

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz To improve you shell programming skills, I highly recommend to check out shellcheck: https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck It points out common errors and gives some suggestions on how to improve the code. Some details in shell scripting are very tricky to get right at first. Even after decades of shell programming, I run into “corner cases” every now and then.

E.g. in getlyr’s line 7 it warns:

echo -e $(gum style --italic --foreground "#f4b8e4" "'$artist', '$song'")
        ^-- SC2046: Quote this to prevent word splitting.

For more information:
  https://www.shellcheck.net/wiki/SC2046 -- Quote this to prevent word splitt...

Most likely not all that problematic in this application, but it’s good to know about this underlying concept. Word splitting is basically splitting tokens on whitespace, this can lead to interesting consequences as illustrated by this little code:

$ echo $(echo "Hello   World")
Hello World

$ echo "$(echo "Hello   World")" 
Hello   World

In the first case the shells sees two whitespace-separated tokens or arguments for the echo command. This basically becomes echo Hello World. So, echo joins them by a single space. In the second one it sees one argument for the echo command, so echo simply echos this single argument that contains three spaces.

Religious Leaders Experiment With AI In Sermons
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the New York Times: To members of his synagogue, the voice that played over the speakers of Congregation Emanu El in Houston sounded just like Rabbi Josh Fixler’s. In the same steady rhythm his congregation had grown used to, the voice delivered a sermon about what it meant to be a neighbor in the age of artificial intelligence. Then, Rabbi Fix … ⌘ Read more

@prologic@twtxt.net @eapl.me@eapl.me @bender@twtxt.net I just found:

Equilibrium problems are solved by method of relaxation numerically.

– Manoj Kumar and Garima Mishra, https://www.scirp.org/html/8798.html

Reminds me of deliberately misattributed quotes from a funny German book series “Die Känguru-Chroniken”, like:

How much is the fish?

– Karl Marx

I’m positively surprised there is even an English wikipedia page about The Kangaroo Chronicles. Somebody gathered a list with all of them.

To quote GLaDOS

: Yesterday I saw a deer!

@eapl.me@eapl.me That’s a nice quote. I like it.

@bender@twtxt.net Haha! I assume you can’t see the original twt, let me quote for you so you know what I’m responding to:

2024-11-20T07:56:00-06:00 (#gjhq2xq) Hey! I tried running Timeline on my server with the default PHP version (8.3) and it’s giving me a few errors https://eapl.me/timeline/ I should be sending a PR soon to fix it ;)
source: eaplme’s twtxt file.

The Fediverse Is Getting Its Own TikTok Competitor Called Loops
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Similar to how Mastodon offers an open source, distributed version of X, the fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor. This week, an app called Loops began accepting signups on its new platform for sharing short, looping videos. Still in the early stages, Loops is not yet open sourced, nor … ⌘ Read more

@prologic@twtxt.net Sure!! gg=G auto-indents your documents, as for the rest it’s:

• v for selection mode, c for change and d for delete actions as usual.
  
• followed by either ‘afor around ori` for inside/in-between whatever special character comes after it
  _ the [, (, “ … special characters define the perimeter/extent of the action.
  

i.e: ci" would be change the text under the cursor between quotes and da[ _delete text and brackets included_

I’ve linked a reference in the first twt, hope you find it useful.

thermodynamics quotes: https://www.eoht.info/page/Thermodynamics%20quotes

I mean thread command but bash escapes quoted as command…

Sharing the comments of the poll (anonymous so I have no idea whom the comments are from):

your poll should include questions about markdown. personally i think inline bits like style, links, images are yes. block quotes, code blocks, bullet lists are mid. but tables and footnotes are no.

Yes sorry about this, I wasn’t able to change much after publishing the poll 😅