v2 branch and @doesnm.p.psf.lt has been incredibly helpful so far. Be great ot have a few more folks to join us, some of the v2 highlights include:
@bender@twtxt.net Here is a properly formatted version of your message:
Not yet — but that’s probably a good idea.
Instructions:
- Clone the repository
git clone https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim.git
cd saltyim
- Check out the
v2branch
git checkout v2
- Build and install the CLI/TUI
make DESTDIR=$HOME/bin install
After installation, run:
salty-chat
Well it’s ~2am and I finally defeated the AI player in a game of Frontier Crown 👑
– On that note I’m now going to bed, I’ve made so many improvements to the aesthetics (UX) of the game, the mechanics, and it’s now quite nicely playable 👌 G’night! 😴
I spent the day today integrating @xuu@txt.sour.is’s double ratcheting work and ratchet library back into the reference client/broker implementation saltyim as a v2 branch. I completely redesigned and rewrite the salty-chat TUI client as well, which now includes proper notifications and a background agent that keeps running so you never miss any messages. It all “just works”™ and I’m quite happy with the outcome! 🤩 #saltyim #revamp
Hmmm 🤔
Excluding merges, 1 author has pushed 171 commits to main and 175 commits to all branches. On main, 294 files have changed and there have been 52880 additions and 18269 deletions.
From the Mu (µ) Gitea Activity Tab
@shinyoukai@neko.laidback.moe We finally abandoned our GitLab. I publicly mirrored my code in the Mills Data Center a few days ago: https://git.mills.io/lyse/tt2
@shinyoukai@neko.laidback.moe Because you might not want to commit all changed files in a single commit. I very often make use of this and create several commits. In fact, I like to git add --patch to interactively select which parts of a file go in the next commit. This happens most likely when refactoring during a feature implementation or bug fix. I couldn’t live without that anymore. :-)
If you have a much more organized way of working where this does not come up, you can just git commit --all to include all changed files in the next commit without git adding them first. But new files still have to be git added manually once.
I just had a closer look at https://git.mills.io/prologic/mu and it motivated me to do some compiler building myself again. Hopefully, I find some time in the next free days. I’m bad at it, but it’s always great fun.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @kiwu@twtxt.net it just so happens to be a happy coincidence that I’m extending mu’s capabilities to now include a native toolchain-free compiler (doesn’t rely on any external gcc/clang or linkers, etc) that lowers the mu source code into an intermediate representation / IR (what @movq@www.uninformativ.de refers to as “thick layers of abstractions”…) and finally to SSA + ARM64 + Mach-O encoder to produce native binary executables (at least for me on my Mac, Linux may some later?) 🤣
I cleaned up all my of AoC (Advent of Code) 2025 solutions, refactored many of the utilities I had to write as reusable libraries, re-tested Day 1 (but nothing else). here it is if you’re curious! This is written in mu, my own language I built as a self-hosted minimal compiler/vm with very few types and builtins.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org My theory is that these people simply don’t do “code archeology”. When something breaks, they don’t reach for git log. They simply don’t experience the pain that comes with bad commits / commit messages.
Or is that different in your company? 😅
@shinyoukai@neko.laidback.moe @prologic@twtxt.net Maybe that is helpful to you: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt2html/issues/12#issuecomment-20792
Gootosocial to a Pleroma one. While GTS is kinda cute (lightweight and easy to manage) of a software, the inability to fetch/scroll through people's past toots when visiting a profile or having access to a federated timeline and a proper search functionality ...etc felt like handicap for the past N months.
@bender@twtxt.net yeah, I’ve been reading through the documentation last night and it felt overwhelming for a minute… +1 point goes to GTS’s docs. but hey, I’ll be taking the easy route: podman-compose up -d they provide both a container image and an example compose file in a separate git repo but I’m wondering why that is not mentioned anywhere in the docs, (unless it is and I haven’t seen it yet)
@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Nice to see someone else also participating! 🥳
(Btw, they don’t want us to share our inputs: https://www.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/wiki/faqs/copyright/inputs/ Yeah, it’s a bit annoying. I also have to do quite a bit of filtering on my repo …)
Working on day 3 of the Advent of Code 2025: https://adventofcode.com/
My solutions repo: https://git.itsericwoodward.com/eric/aoc-2025
@prologic@twtxt.net Your gitea thinks the LICENSE file in the yarn repository is SSPL-1.0 instead of GNU AGPL 3.0,
and I can’t help but giggle at that
The funny thing is, Yarn moving to Twt Hash v2 sounds a tad more optimistic than Git adopting SHA-256.
Git is several years too late, while Yarn is pretty much on time.
Speaking of WAF(s) / Web Applicaiton Firewalls – I actually had forgotten that not only have I designed a new WAF from scratch, but I’ve actually implemented it already, and done some local testing. I just haven’t put it into production yet… What od you think @aelaraji@aelaraji.com ? 🤔 https://git.mills.io/prologic/caddy-waf
@prologic@twtxt.net I originally did that, then I git reset XD
Tired to re-enable the Ege route to git.mills.io today (after finishing work) and this is what I found 🤯 Tehse asshole/cunts are still at it !!! 🤬 – So let’s instead see if this works:
$ host git.mills.io 1.1.1.1
Using domain server:
Name: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53
Aliases:
git.mills.io is an alias for fuckoff.mills.io.
fuckoff.mills.io has address 127.0.0.1


PS: Would anyone be interested if I started a massive global class action suit against companies that do this kind of abusive web crawling behavior, violate/disregards robots.txt and whatever else standards that are set in stone by the W3C? 🤔
Oh fuck me! I had basically turned off the route to git.mills.io last night and went ot bed at ~2AM after unsuccessfully trying to control the attacks (bad bots) that were behaving like a DDoS attack. Tried to re-enable the route this monring and *BOOM, they’re back! As-if they never stopped?! what da actual fuq?!
Anyone have any clever ideas of what I can do here to allows normal users, like you nice folk and block ths obnoxious traffic?!
Fark me again with the bots. This time DDoS-style crawling from hundreds of IPs and dozens of ASN(s) wtf?!
I’ve had to disale the Ingress to my Git instance for the time being,
i need to sleep and I can’t fight this :/
Hm, so regarding the hash change:
https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28
How about 2026-03-01 00:00:00 UTC as the cut-off date? 🤔
All my newly added test cases failed, that movq thankfully provided in https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28#issuecomment-20801 for the draft of the twt hash v2 extension. The first error was easy to see in the diff. The hashes were way too long. You’ve already guessed it, I had cut the hash from the twelfth character towards the end instead of taking the first twelve characters: hash[12:] instead of hash[:12].
After fixing this rookie mistake, the tests still all failed. Hmmm. Did I still cut the wrong twelve characters? :-? I even checked the Go reference implementation in the document itself. But it read basically the same as mine. Strange, what the heck is going on here?
Turns out that my vim replacements to transform the Python code into Go code butchered all the URLs. ;-) The order of operations matters. I first replaced the equals with colons for the subtest struct fields and then wanted to transform the RFC 3339 timestamp strings to time.Date(…) calls. So, I replaced the colons in the time with commas and spaces. Hence, my URLs then also all read https, //example.com/twtxt.txt.
But that was it. All test green. \o/
And regarding those broken URLs: I once speculated that these bots operate on an old dataset, because I thought that my redirect rules actually were broken once and produced loops. But a) I cannot reproduce this today, and b) I cannot find anything related to that in my Git history, either. But it’s hard to tell, because I switched operating systems and webservers since then …
But the thing is that I’m seeing new URLs constructed in this pattern. So this can’t just be an old crawling dataset.
I am now wondering if those broken URLs are bot bugs as well.
They look like this (zalgo is a new project):
https://www.uninformativ.de/projects/slinp/zalgo/scksums/bevelbar/
When you request that URL, you get redirected to /git/:
$ curl -sI https://www.uninformativ.de/projects/slinp/zalgo/scksums/bevelbar/
HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:13:51 GMT
Server: OpenBSD httpd
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 510
Location: /git/
And on /git/, there are links to my repos. So if a broken client requests https://www.uninformativ.de/projects/slinp/zalgo/scksums/bevelbar/, then sees a bunch of links and simply appends them, you’ll end up with an infinite loop.
Is that what’s going on here or are my redirects actually still broken … ?
I know its been a long time, but I did come about around to howl a bit recently https://git.gay/xjix/howl needs a ton of work to be usable, but I think itll be a fun way to browse the twtxtverse.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well, they say you have to build up stocks, don’t they? 😅
The font is fiamf3 (scaled up 2x, it would be too small when printed). It’s the same one that I use in my terminal and the status bars. 😃
@bender@twtxt.net Hahaha! :-D But I actually do like their approach. I don’t know what staff should do differently when they are not involved in the channel topic. At least in the general case. Maybe in this specific scenario here they could have cross-checked domains, git repos and stuff like that. But I also reckon that it’s only fair if they treat everybody the same.
Done ✅ Will be available on this pod as soon as the publish workflow finished successfully.
PR to clean up some unwanted specs and cleanup some invalid/bad references. 🙏
🥳 Just released Gatherly v0.3.0 🤟 – My instance is available at: https://gatherly.mills.io (free for anyone to use)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Cool! 😎 You might be interested in my own learnings and toying around with building my own container engine / tooling (whatever you wanna call it) box. I had to learn a bunch of this stuff too 😅 Control Groups, Namespaces, Process Isolation, etc.
i’m torn between git-daemon and using a forgejo to store my flakes. i can do authz using yggdrasil addresses, but that’s basically the limit. maybe that’s not a bad thing.
@zvava@twtxt.net No HEAD requests, but regular GETs with If-Modified-Since request headers if possible: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/main/internal/fetcher.go#L270
I think I’m just about ready to go live with my new blog (migrated from MicroPub). I just finished migrating all of the content over, fixing up metadata, cleaning up, migrating media, optimizing media.
The new blog for prologic.blog soon to be powered by zs using the zs-blog-template is coming along very nicely 👌 It was actually pretty easy to do the migration/conversation in the end. The results are not to shabby either.
Before:
- ~50MB repo
- ~267 files
After:
- ~20MB repo
- ~88 files
Pretty happy with my zs-blog-template starter kit for creating and maintaining your own blog using zs 👌 Demo of what the starter kit looks like here – Basic features include:
- Clean layout & typography
- Chroma code highlighting (aligned to your site palette)
- Accessible copy-code button
- “On this page” collapsible TOC
- RSS, sitemap, robots
- Archives, tags, tag cloud
- Draft support (hidden from lists/feeds)
- Open Graph (OG) & Twitter card meta (default image + per-post overrides)
- Ready-to-use 404 page
As well as custom routes (redirects, rewrites, etc) to support canonical URLs or redirecting old URLs as well as new zs external command capability itself that now lets you do things like:
$ zs newpost
to help kick-start the creation of a new post with all the right “stuff”™ ready to go and then pop open your $EEDITOR 🤞
@prologic@twtxt.net No, this is a Linux manpage from the man-pages project: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/man/man7/ascii.7
I do have an idea what’s going on. Could be an unfortunate interaction between the table preprocessor tbl and the man macro package. 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net you doing this reminded me of mkws, and Adi. Good times, we have seeing so many people come and go. It is kind of sad, when I think about “jjl”, and Phil, and the many others…
I am feeling “mushy” today. Ugh, ageing sucks.
I just created a zs blogging template which I’m going to use for https://prologic.blog and I might starting writing long-form again soon™ 🔜 So far the “blogging” template/engine (if you weill) is quite simple. It comprises essentially of an index.md a prehook and a few utilities:
$ git ls-files
.gitignore
.zs/config.yml
.zs/editthispage
.zs/include
.zs/layout.html
.zs/list
.zs/months
.zs/now
.zs/onthispage
.zs/posthook
.zs/postsbymonth
.zs/prehook
.zs/scripts
.zs/styles
.zs/tagcloud
.zs/taglist
.zs/years
archives/.empty
assets/css/site.css
assets/js/main.js
index.md
posts/hello-zs-blog.md
posts/on-tagging.md
posts/second-post.md
tags/.empty
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @prologic@twtxt.net Can’t we find a middle ground and support both?
The thread is defined by two parts:
- The hash
- The subject
The client/pod generate the hash and index it in it’s database/cache, then it simply query the subject of other posts to find the related posts, right?
In my own client current implementation (using hashes), the only calculation is in the hash generation, the rest is a verbatim copy of the subject (minus the # character), if this is the common implemented approach then adding the location based one is somewhat simple.
function setPostIndex(post) {
// Current hash approach
const hash = createHash(post.url, post.timestamp, post.content);
// New location approach
const location = post.url + '#' + post.timestamp;
// Unchanged (probably)
const subject = post.subject;
// Index them all
addToIndex(hash, post);
addToIndex(location, post);
addToIndex(subject, post);
}
// Both should work if the index contains both versions
getThreadBySubject('#abcdef') => [post1, post2, post3]; // Hash
getThreadBySubject('https://example.com#2025-01-01T12:00:00') => [post1, post2, post3]; // Location
As I said before, the mention is already location based @<example https://example.com/twtxt.txt>, so I think we should keep that in consideration.
Of course this will lead to a bit of fragmentation (without merging the two) but I think this can make everyone happy.
Otherwise, the only other solution I can think of is a different approach where the value doesn’t matter, allowing to use anything as a reference (hash, location, git commit) for greater flexibility and freedom of implementation (this probably need the use of a fixed “header” for each post, but it can be seen as a separate extension).
@zvava@twtxt.net Not much of a known fact these days, but thereused to be a Yarn phone app (https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/app), last version released 5 or so years ago, but it still suggests, it has to be somewhat feasable, to make another one. I don’t think anyone tried since, because the web version works well on phones, but I’m still hoping, we get a more native phone experience, one day.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Luckily, I had a grep -v git at the end, so my repo is still in working order. Phew. I wish find had grep-like --exclude-dir and --exclude options (or the include variants) instead of its own weird options that I never can remember and combine properly.
sed -i s/… $(find …). Clearly, I found too many files. That's the signal to go to bed.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I’ve corrupted a Git repo or two doing that … 🥴
@zvava@twtxt.net Herw you go: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28
How about no longer using in-browser Git repo viewers? Make the AI bots do the work and actually clone the repo.
@dce@hashnix.club You should try los86! 8-)
Well, what are you trying to do on this ThinkPad? That might affect the OS choices.
I really had to laugh when I read your initial comparison. I love it! :-D
Now that’s interesting. Some of these bots start crawling at URLs like this:
That is obviously completely wrong. But I can explain it. Some years ago, I screwed up my nginx rewrite rules, and that’s how these broken URLs came to be.
It all redirects to /git now, which is why that endpoint sees so much traffic lately.
But what does that mean? Why do they start there? I can only speculate that this company bought an old database of web links and they use that to start crawling. And it was probably a cheap one, because these redirects have been fixed for quite a long time now.
The bots have begun to access my website way more often. I’m getting about 120k hits on https://www.uninformativ.de/git/ now in a couple of hours.
They don’t cache anything, probably on purpose.
It comes in waves. I get about 100 hits (all at once) on that /git endpoint, all from different IPs. Then it takes a moment until I get another wave of about 500-1000 requests (all at once) where they do HEAD requests on some of the paths below /git. I assume they did a GET earlier and are now checking if something has changed.
@dce@hashnix.club Ah, oh, well then. 🥴
My client supports that, if you set multiple url = fields in your feed’s metadata (the top-most one must be the “main” URL, that one is used for hashing).
But yeah, multi-protocol feeds can be problematic and some have considered it a mistake to support them. 🤔
/short/ if it's of this useless kind. Never thought that they ever actually will improve their Atom feeds. Thank you, much appreciated!
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @movq@www.uninformativ.de Sorry, I neither finished it nor in time. :-( That’s as good as it’s gonna get for the moment: https://git.isobeef.org/lyse/gelbariab/-/tree/master/rss-proxys?ref_type=heads
The README should hopefully provide a crude introduction. The example configuration file is documented fairly well, I believe (but maybe not). You probably still have to consult and maybe also modify the source code to fit your needs.
Let me know if you run into issues, have questions, wishes etc.