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In-reply-to » It is a pleasure to work with the help system of Borland’s Turbo C++ 3.0 on DOS. The descriptions are clear and concise. There are short and simple examples. Pretty much every help page is cross-refenced and those links can be clicked.

@eapl.me@eapl.me I have many fond memories of Turbo pascal and Turbo C(++). They really did have a great help system. And debug tools! Its rare for language docs to be as approachable. QBasic was great. As was PHP docs when I first came into web.

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Obligatory Twtxt post: I love how I can simply use a terminal window and some very basic tools (echo, scp, ssh) to publish thoughts, as they pop up, onto the Internet in a structured way, that can be found and perhaps even appreciated.

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Anyone have any ideas how you might identify processes (pids) on Linux machine that are responsible for most of the Disk I/O on that machine and subsequently causing high I/O wait times for other processes? šŸ¤”

Important bit: The machine has no access to the internet, there are hardly any standard tools on it, etc. So I have to get something to it ā€œair gappedā€. I have terminal access to it, so I can do interesting things like, base64 encode a static binary to my clipboard and paste it to a file, then base64 decode it and execute. That’s about the only mechanisms I have.

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In-reply-to » How is everyone finding GitHub CoPilot? šŸ¤” Good / Bad ? šŸ¤”

@prologic@twtxt.net do not use it, but gave it a try early on and was not impressed. it gave a good outline of what I asked but then unreliably dorked up all the crucial parts.

I will say though if it is truly learning at the rate they say then it should be a good tool.

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In setting up my own company and it’s internal tools and services and supporting infrastructure, the ony thing I haven’t figured out how to solve ā€œreally wellā€ is Email, Calendar and Contacts 😢 All the options that exist ā€œsuckā€. They suck either in terms of ā€œoperational complexity and overheadsā€ or ā€œa poor user experienceā€.

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In-reply-to » What do we make of this? Sky News Australia interviews 'free-thinking' artificial intelligence - YouTube #OpenAI #Amica

@prologic@twtxt.net Horseshit hype:

  • AI that we have today cannot think–there is no cognitive capacity
  • AI that we have today cannot be interviewedā€“ā€œinterā€ ā€œviewingā€ is two minds interacting, but AI of today has no mind, which means this is a puppet show
  • AI today is not free–it’s a tool, a machine, hardly different from a hammer. It does what a human directs it to do and has no drives, desires, or autonomy. What you’re seeing here is a fancy Mechnical Turk

This shit is probably paid for by AI companies who desperately want us to think of the AI as far more capable than it actually is, because that juices sales and gives them a way to argue they aren’t responsible for any harms it causes.

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I’d love to read the original source code of this:

https://ecsoft2.org/t-tiny-editor

This was our standard editor back in the day, not an ā€œemergency toolā€. And it’s only 9kB in size … which feels absurd in 2023. šŸ˜… The entire hex dump fits on one of today’s screens.

Being so small meant it had no config file. Instead, it came with TKEY.EXE, a little tool to binary-patch T.EXE to your likings.

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In-reply-to » I'm using rss on a terminal (Termux) in my phone, it's more confortable read there articles and other stuff, but for posting on twtxt, I tried , I swear it, but it's too much, it's not practical, I have to assume that it's better in a website/app like this.

Yep, that’s right, we have to use these tools in a proper way; terminal it’s not a friendly tool to use for this kind of stuff, on mobile devices, and web interfaces are prepared to bring us a confortable space.

Btw, I’m waiting for your php based client 😜 no pressure… 🤭

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In-reply-to » I'm using rss on a terminal (Termux) in my phone, it's more confortable read there articles and other stuff, but for posting on twtxt, I tried , I swear it, but it's too much, it's not practical, I have to assume that it's better in a website/app like this.

[lang=en] That was the reason for twtxt-php =P
I tried using CLI tools but it was too hacky, I think.
More if we consider Jakob’s Law, where we have prior expectations of a microblogging system.

A Web interface could be quite minimalistic and usable as well. (And mobile-friendly)

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In-reply-to » I've only been using snac/the fediverse for a few days and already I've had to mute somebody. I know I come on strongly with my opinions sometimes and some people don't like that, but this person had already started going ad hominem (in my reading of it), and was using what felt to me like sketchy tactics to distract from the point I was trying to make and to shut down conversation. They were doing similar things to other people in the thread so rather than wait for it to get bad for me I just muted them. People get so weirdly defensive so fast when you disagree with something they said online. Not sure I fully understand that.

@prologic@twtxt.net Well, you can mute or block individual users, and you can mute conversations too. I think the tools for controlling your interactions aren’t so bad (they could definitely be improved ofc). And in my case, I was replying to something this person said, so it wasn’t outrageous for his reply to be pushed to me. Mostly, I was sad to see how quickly the conversation went bad. I thought I was offering something relatively uncontroversial, and actually I was just agreeing with and amplifying something another person had already said.

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What I see here is that when I was reading your .txt, the timestamp was like 40 minutes later than current time. Say it’s 1pm and that twt is timed on 1.40pm

No idea why, perhaps your server has a wrong Timezone, or your twtxt tool is doing some timezome conversion?

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In-reply-to » Dear StackĀ Overflow, Inc.

Seems to me you could write a script that:

  • Parses a StackOverflow question
  • Runs it through an AI text generator
  • Posts the output as a post on StackOverflow

and basically pollute the entire information ecosystem there in a matter of a few months? How long before some malicious actor does this? Maybe it’s being done already 🤷

What an asinine, short-sighted decision. An astonishing number of companies are actively reducing headcount because their executives believe they can use this newfangled AI stuff to replace people. But, like the dot com boom and subsequent bust, many of the companies going this direction are going to face serious problems when the hypefest dies down and the reality of what this tech can and can’t do sinks in.

We really, really need to stop trusting important stuff to corporations. They are not tooled to last.

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In-reply-to » Metaverse Could Contribute Up To 2.4% of US GDP By 2035, Study Shows A study commissioned by Meta has found that the metaverse could contribute around 2.4% to U.S. annual GDP by 2035, equating to as much as $760 billion. Reuters reports: The concept of the metaverse includes augmented and virtual reality technologies that allow users to immerse themselves in a virtual world or overlay information digitally on ... ⌘ Read more

@shreyan@twtxt.net I agree re: AR. Vircadia is neat. I stumbled on it years ago when I randomly started wondering ā€œwonder what’s going on with Second Life and those VR thingsā€ and started googling around.

Unfortunately, like so many metaverse efforts, it’s almost devoid of life. Interesting worlds to explore, cool tools to build your own stuff, but almost no people in it. It feels depressing, like an abandoned shopping mall.

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In-reply-to » Looks like Google's using this blog post of mine without my permission. I hate this kind of tech company crap so much.

I have no interest in doing anything about it, even if I had the time (which I don’t), but these kind of thing happen all day every day to countless people. My silly blog post isn’t worth getting up in arms about, but there are artists and other creators who pour countless hours, heart and soul into their work, only to have it taken in exactly this way. That’s one of the reasons I’m so extremely negative about the spate of ā€œAIā€ tools that have popped up recently. They are powered by theft.

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There is a ā€œrightā€ way to make something like GitHub CoPilot, but Microsoft did not choose that way. They chose one of the most exploitative options available to them. For that reason, I hope they face significant consequences, though I doubt they will in the current climate. I also hope that CoPilot is shut down, though I’m pretty certain it will not be.

Other than access to the data behind it, Microsoft has nothing special that allows it to create something like CoPilot. The technology behind it has been around for at least a decade. There could be a ā€œpublicā€ version of this same tool made by a cooperating group of people volunteering, ā€œleasingā€, or selling their source code into it. There could likewise be an ethically-created corporate version. Such a thing would give individual developers or organizations the choice to include their code in the tool, possibly for a fee if that’s something they want or require. The creators of the tool would have to acknowledge that they have suppliers–the people who create the code that makes their tool possible–instead of simply stealing what they need and pretending that’s fine.

This era we’re living through, with large companies stomping over all laws and regulations, blatantly stealing other people’s work for their own profit, cannot come to an end soon enough. It is destroying innovation, and we all suffer for that. Having one nifty tool like CoPilot that gives a bit of convenience is nowhere near worth the tremendous loss that Microsoft’s actions in this instace are creating for everyone.

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I was listening to an O’Reilly hosted event where they had the CEO of GitHub, Thomas Dohmke, talking about CoPilot. I asked about biased systems and copyright problems. He, Thomas Dohmke, said, that in the next iteration they will show name, repo and licence information next to the code snippets you see in CoPilot. This should give a bit more transparency. The developer still has to decide to adhere to the licence. On the other hand, I have to say he is right about the fact, that probably every one of us has used a code snippet from stack overflow (where 99% no licence or copyright is mentioned) or GitHub repos or some tutorial website without mentioning where the code came from. Of course, CoPilot has trained with a lot of code from public repos. It is a more or less a much faster and better search engine that the existing tools have been because how much code has been used from public GitHub repos without adding the source to code you pasted it into?

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In-reply-to » DEEPL now has a Writer https://www.deepl.com/write - very nice, fast and available in multiple languages. Write better texts, instantly.

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net

I have to write so many emails to so many idiots who have no idea what they are doing

So it sounds to me like the pressure is to reduce how much time you waste on idiots, which to my mind is a very good reason to use a text generator! I guess in that case you don’t mind too much whether the company making the AI owns your prompt text?

I’d really like to see tools like this that you can run on your desktop or phone, so they don’t send your hard work off to someone else and give a company a chance to take it from you.

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On LinkedIn I see a lot of posts aimed at software developers along the lines of ā€œIf you’re not using these AI tools (X,Y,Z) you’re going to be left behind.ā€

Two things about that:

  1. No you’re not. If you have good soft skills (good communication, show up on time, general time management) then you’re already in excellent shape. No AI can do that stuff, and for that alone no AI can replace people
  2. This rhetoric is coming directly from the billionaires who are laying off tech people by the 100s of thousands as part of the class war they’ve been conducting against all working people since the 1940s. They want you to believe that you have to scramble and claw over one another to learn the ā€œAIā€ that they’re forcing onto the world, so that you stop honing the skills that matter (see #1) and are easier to obsolete later. Don’t fall for it. It’s far from clear how this will shake out once governments get off their asses and start regulating this stuff, by the way–most of these ā€œAIā€ tools are blatantly breaking copyright and other IP laws, and some day that’ll catch up with them.

That said, it is helpful to know thy enemy.

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In-reply-to » On the topic of Programming Languages and Telemetry. I'm kind of curious... Do any of these programming language and their toolchains collect telemetry on their usage and effectively "spy" on your development?

@prologic@twtxt.net I get the worry of privacy. But I think there is some value in the data being collected. Do I think that Russ is up there scheming new ways to discover what packages you use in internal projects for targeting ads?? Probably not.

Go has always been driven by usage data. Look at modules. There was need for having repeatable builds so various package tool chains were made and evolved into what we have today. Generics took time and seeing pain points where they would provide value. They weren’t done just so it could be checked off on a box of features. Some languages seem to do that to the extreme.

Whenever changes are made to the language there are extensive searches across public modules for where the change might cause issues or could be improved with the change. The fs embed and strings.Cut come to mind.

I think its good that the language maintainers are using what metrics they have to guide where to focus time and energy. Some of the other languages could use it. So time and effort isn’t wasted in maintaining something that has little impact.

The economics of the ā€œspyingā€ are to improve the product and ecosystem. Is it ā€œspyingā€ when a municipality uses water usage metrics in neighborhoods to forecast need of new water projects? Or is it to discover your shower habits for nefarious reasons?

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In-reply-to » Yes, but no. This didn’t happen before, it will drive me nuts. That search sucks, by the way. I know, I am being gentle. šŸ˜‚

I’ve never liked the idea of having everything displayed all of the time for all of history.

And I still don’t: Search and Bookmarks are better tools for this IMO.

From a technical perspective however, we will not introduce any CGO dependencies into yarnd – It makes portability harder.

Also I hate SQL šŸ˜†

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@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @xuu@txt.sour.is hello! @prologic@twtxt.net and I were chatting about the question of globally deleting twts from the yarn.social network. @prologic@twtxt.net noted that he could build the tools and endpoints to delete twts, but some amount of cooperation from pod operators would be necessary to make it all work together. He asked me to spawn a discussion of the subject here, so here we are!

I don’t have enough technical knowledge of yarn.social to say with any credibility how it all should work, but I can say that I think it ought to be possible and it’d be good to do for those rare times when it’s needed.

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In-reply-to » šŸ¤” šŸ‘‹ Reconsidering moving Yarn.social's development back to Github: Speaking of which (I do not forget); @fastidious and I were discussing over a video call two nights ago, as well as @lyse who joined a bit later, about the the whole moved of all of my projects and their source code off of Github. Whilst some folks do understand and appreciate my utter disgust over what Microsoft and Copilot did by blatantly scraping open source software's codebases without even so much as any attempt at attribution or respecting the licenes of many (if not all?) open source projects.

No on gitlab. If its self hosted gitea is best in class.

I can see hosting a mirror on github if only for the redundancy/visibility. Some projects will host but then direct contributions on their self host. Like Go does.

I would suggest using a vanity domain that can redirect tools like go get to hosting of choice. And not require rewriting all the packages any time it gets moved.

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In-reply-to » Use C do crime! https://cdn.masto.host/pdxsocial/media_attachments/files/107/294/565/215/390/680/original/1d29c85c0aa4c9a5.png

JavaScript : web apps

wut?! 😳 seriously?! šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

Python : small tools

Okay šŸ‘Œ

Go: micro services

Umm bad generalization 🤣 – Example yarnd that powers most of Yarn.social šŸ˜‚

Java: enterprise software

Yes! Oh gawd yes! 🤣 And Javaā„¢ needs to die a swift death!

C: crimes

Hmmm? šŸ¤” I feel this one is going to have some backslash and/or go the way of ā€œHackerā€ being misconstrued to mean entirely different/incorrect things as is what’s happening in the media (for various definitions of ā€œmediaā€).

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šŸ¤” šŸ‘‹ Reconsidering moving Yarn.social’s development back to Github: Speaking of which (I do not forget); @fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com and I were discussing over a video call two nights ago, as well as @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org who joined a bit later, about the the whole moved of all of my projects and their source code off of Github. Whilst some folks do understand and appreciate my utter disgust over what Microsoft and Copilot did by blatantly scraping open source software’s codebases without even so much as any attempt at attribution or respecting the licenes of many (if not all?) open source projects.

That being said however, @fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com makes a very good and valid argument for putting Yarn.social’s codebases, repositories and issues back on Github for reasons that make me ā€œtornā€ over my own sense of morality and ethics.

But I can live with this as long as I continue to run and operate my new (yet to be off the ground) company ā€œSelf Hosted Pty Ltdā€ and where it operates it’s own code hosting, servicesa, tools, etc.

Plese comment here on your thoughts. Let us decide togetehr šŸ¤—

#yarnsocial #github #opsnsource #copilot #microsoft

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In-reply-to » Dug out my old usb audio device and now my Plan 9 raspberry pi can play music. šŸ’Æ

Lots. 🤣 The system is small, coherent, and understandable in a way no modern unix is. The namespace operations remain incredibly powerful. And several of the tools built on it, like the way network listeners and the mail server are built, are just much nicer to use, modify, and build on.

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If [you take] a look at how APLers communicate when they have ideas, you see code all the time, all day long. The APL community is the only one I’ve seen that regularly can write complete code and talk about it fluently on a whiteboard between humans without hand waving. Even my beloved Scheme programming language cannot boast this. When working with humans on a programming task, almost no one uses their programming languages that primary communication method between themselves and other humans outside of the presence of a computer. That signals to me that they are not, in fact, natural, expedient tools for communicating ideas to other humans. The best practices utilized in most programming languages are, instead, attempts to ameliorate the situation to make the code as tractable and as manageable as possible, but they do not, primarily, represent a demonstration of the naturalness of those languages to human communication. — aaron hsu

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I wonder if email would be a reasonable way to enable interaction on twtxt… something like publishing an email address for replies in the preamble of your feed, then like twtxt the rest is up to you, but I could imagine a simple moderation queue that could be checked periodically allowing the admin to move approved comments into some public space… I keep thinking I’ll add activitypub comments to my site but it seems more complex than I care for. Ironically because of available tooling email actually feels simpler for this… of course, there is spam…

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Twtxt is still very much alive and well. I just wrote a quick tool to crawl as much of the Twtxt network as I could and here’s what the results are:

Crawled 516 feeds
Found 52464 twts

That means there are >500 unique Twtxt feeds/users, and over ~52k Twts posted to date. 😳

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@prologic@twtxt.net it is some interesting work to decentralize all the things.. tricky part is finding tooling. i am using a self hacked version of the go openpgp library. A tool to add and remove notations would need to be local since it needs your private key.

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