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In-reply-to » @movq Is there a good way to get jenny to do a one-off fetch of a feed, for when you want to fill in missing parts of a thread? I just added @slashdot to my private follow file just because @prologic keeps responding to the feed :-P and I want to know what he's commenting on even though I don't want to see every new slashdot twt.

@prologic@twtxt.net How does yarn.social’s API fix the problem of centralization? I still need to know whose API to use.

Say I see a twt beginning (#hash) and I want to look up the start of the thread. Is the idea that if that twt is hosted by a a yarn.social pod, it is likely to know the thread start, so I should query that particular pod for the hash? But what if no yarn.social pods are involved?

The community seems small enough that a registry server should be able to keep up, and I can have a couple of others as backups. Or I could crawl the list of feeds followed by whoever emitted the twt that prompted my query.

I have successfully used registry servers a little bit, e.g. to find a feed that mentioned a tag I was interested in. Was even thinking of making my own, if I get bored of my too many other projects :-)

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@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Ah, thanks for reporting back! Okay, so you’re basically manually ā€œcrawlingā€ feeds right now. šŸ¤” What do you think about the idea of adding something like # follow_notify = gemini://foo/bar to your feed’s metadata, so that clients who follow you can ping that URL every now and then? How would you even notice that, do you regularly read your gemini logs? šŸ¤”

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In-reply-to » There is a bug in yarnd that's been around for awhile and is still present in the current version I'm running that lets a person hit a constructed URL like

A stopgap setting that would let me stop all calls to /external matching a particular pattern (like this damn lovetocode999 nick) would do the job. Given the potential for abuse of that endpoint, having more moderation control over what it can do is probably a good idea.

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In-reply-to » POWER EFFIN' OUTAGE!!! Electricity came back after ~10 min like... no beggie BUT, Internet stayed out for like 2 more hrs šŸ˜…

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I have no Idea, I still haven’t found a repair shop I can trust with my monitor. As for the blackouts, they don’t have consistent frequency. Sometimes it’s once every 3 months… other times it’s 3 times a day šŸ˜‚

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In-reply-to » @aelaraji Ahh it might very well be a Clownflare thing as @lyse eluded to 🤣 One of these days I'm going to get off Clownflare myself, when I do I'll share it with you. My idea is to basically have a cheap VPS like @eldersnake has and use Wireguard to tunnel out. The VPS becomes the Reverse Proxy that faces the internet. My home network then has in inbound whatsoever.

@prologic@twtxt.net ā€˜Clownflare’ 🤣🤣🤣 Love it.

But yes the idea of a cheap VPS as a tunnel and keeping home network all local is a good one I reckon.

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In-reply-to » @lyse Ahh so it's not just me! šŸ˜…

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Ahh it might very well be a Clownflare thing as @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org eluded to 🤣 One of these days I’m going to get off Clownflare myself, when I do I’ll share it with you. My idea is to basically have a cheap VPS like @eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club has and use Wireguard to tunnel out. The VPS becomes the Reverse Proxy that faces the internet. My home network then has in inbound whatsoever.

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In-reply-to » @abucci / @abucci Any interesting errors pop up in the server logs since the the flaw got fixed (unbounded receieveFile())? šŸ¤”

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no @xuu@txt.sour.is @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ā€œNot coolā€? I was receiving many broken (HTTP 400 error) requests per second from an IP address I didn’t recognize, right after having my VPS crash because the hard drive filled up with bogus data. None of this had happened on this VPS before, so it was a new problem that I didn’t understand and I took immediate action to get it under control. Of course I reported the IP address to its abuse email. That’s a 100% normal, natural, and ā€œcoolā€ thing to do in such a situation. At the time I had no idea it was @xuu@txt.sour.is .

The moment I realized it was @xuu@txt.sour.is and definitely a false alarm, I emailed the ISP and told them this was a false positive and to not ban or block the IP in question because it was not abusive traffic. They haven’t yet responded but I do hope they’ve stopped taking action, and if there’s anything else I can do to certify to them that this is not abuse then I will do that.

I run numerous services on that VPS that I rely on, and I spent most of my day today cleaning up the mess all this has caused. I get that this caused @xuu@txt.sour.is a lot of stress and I’m sincerely sorry about that and am doing what I can to rectify the situation. But calling me ā€œnot coolā€ isn’t necessary. This was an unfortunate situation that we’re trying to make right and there’s no need for criticizing anyone.

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In-reply-to » @abucci Oh hey! šŸ‘‹

@prologic@twtxt.net This is weird, but today, out of nowhere, yarnd filled up the disk on the VPS where I run it. It’s never done anything like this before and I have no idea why it would start. But it threw almost 700 Gbytes of data into /tmp in files like this:

yarnd-avatar-1087570772  yarnd-avatar-1599127133  yarnd-avatar-2042956376  yarnd-avatar-2562946212  yarnd-avatar-3274766535  yarnd-avatar-3931929859  yarnd-avatar-553201529
yarnd-avatar-1089125452  yarnd-avatar-1606826819  yarnd-avatar-2089122560  yarnd-avatar-2611944556  yarnd-avatar-3310922372  yarnd-avatar-3938996661  yarnd-avatar-556240195
yarnd-avatar-1101228867  yarnd-avatar-1618755765  yarnd-avatar-2104107259  yarnd-avatar-2641384948  yarnd-avatar-3326285269  yarnd-avatar-3939402047  yarnd-avatar-559344463
yarnd-avatar-1112165824  yarnd-avatar-1650827505  yarnd-avatar-2142824779  yarnd-avatar-2680659340  yarnd-avatar-3340682113  yarnd-avatar-3998621883  yarnd-avatar-570292705
yarnd-avatar-1119886894  yarnd-avatar-1656673647  yarnd-avatar-2160786463  yarnd-avatar-271923479   yarnd-avatar-3374584613  yarnd-avatar-4005102536  yarnd-avatar-595490106
yarnd-avatar-1131417623  yarnd-avatar-1685698239  yarnd-avatar-2165405940  yarnd-avatar-2793562275  yarnd-avatar-3380606954  yarnd-avatar-4016872095  yarnd-avatar-679251850
yarnd-avatar-1160959085  yarnd-avatar-1746759128  yarnd-avatar-2171489899  yarnd-avatar-2842068287  yarnd-avatar-3416352997  yarnd-avatar-4110048378  yarnd-avatar-679950970
yarnd-avatar-1231649265  yarnd-avatar-1752278279  yarnd-avatar-2251317422  yarnd-avatar-2843868670  yarnd-avatar-3468636088  yarnd-avatar-4116552474  yarnd-avatar-737874628

164 files. Some are empty, some are 7 or even 10 Gbyte.

Any idea what would cause that? And why now, after running yarnd for so long with nothing like this happening?

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In-reply-to » Regarding complexity budget, slow software, all that:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Somewhere or another, I think in a William Byrd talk, I heard it suggested that the best ideas in computer science should fit on an index card (ah yes it’s this one: https://paperswelove.org/2017/video/will-byrd-most-beautiful-program/ ). He was referring to the basic principles of LISP/the lambda calculus, which have sometimes been called the Maxwell’s equations of computer programming (by Alan Kay). Simple, short, elegant, but very densely packed with meaning–generations of people have spent their whole careers unpacking what those simple rules can do.

Much of modern software feels like the polar opposite of that. Not only can you not write it on an index card, you never will be able to because people who write software don’t seem to aspire to try. I wish more people thought this way though!

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In-reply-to » 42km for 42 years: 26.26 miles, 00:11:50 average pace, 05:10:44 duration crazy run... don't have a lot of time so i'll have to remember to complete the thread that i captured in my journal. #running

@bmallred@staystrong.run overall this was pretty good and the run-walk intervals kept my heart rate low.

at around 0400 a car came racing (90-100 mph) down gulf blvd towards my direction. it turned its headlights off and actually lost traction at point and skidded a bit. okay, kids. then a bit later i hear the car coming back behind me… so i got as far to the right as i could in case the car skids again. as it passed me i looked over my shoulder and saw a police vehicle a bit back w/o lights on yet. then looking in front another cop and then they blocked the lanes to get the driver to stop. driver decided he wasn’t stopping and tried to swerve around the police and ended up ping-ponging between sides of the road. enough of that…

took a wrong turn after going over the first bridge, but luckily it went in a loop. didn’t really know exactly where i was going anyways and was just winging it from the get-go.

the rest of the run was pretty uneventful and just a fun experience. crazy idea accomplished.

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Hah 🤣 @dfaria@twtxt.net Your @dfaria.eu@dfaria.eu feed really does consume about >50% of a ā€œDiscoverā€ search with filters ā€œWithout repliesā€ and ā€œHide my postsā€. 🤣

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36/2 = 18 at 25 Twts per page, that’s about ~72% of the search/view real estate you’re taking up! wow 🤩 – I’d be very interested to hear what ideas you have to improve this? Those search filters were created so you could sift through either your own Timeline or the Discover view easily.

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In-reply-to » wtf is going on with Microsoft and OpenAI of late?! LIke Microsoft bought into OpenAI for some shocking $10bn USD, then Sam Altman gor fired, now he's been hired by Microsoft to run up a new "AI" division. wtf/! seriously?! šŸ¤” #Microsoft #OpenAI #Scandal

@prologic@twtxt.net the new product was GPTs. A way to create tailored bots for specific use cases. https://openai.com/blog/introducing-gpts (fun fact: I did an internal hackathon where we made something like this for $work onboarding. And I won a prize!)

The competed project is poe https://quorablog.quora.com/Introducing-creator-monetization-for-Poe which is basically the same idea. Make a AI bot tailored to a specific domain of knowledge. And monitize it.

The timing fits very well as openAI announced it just a few weeks ago.

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Messed up the configuration of the nut UPS monitor so bad it actually initialised an UPS test where the device switched itself off on the reboot of the PC. No idea how that happened. So uninstalled it again.

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Anyone have any ideas how you might identify processes (pids) on Linux machine that are responsible for most of the Disk I/O on that machine and subsequently causing high I/O wait times for other processes? šŸ¤”

Important bit: The machine has no access to the internet, there are hardly any standard tools on it, etc. So I have to get something to it ā€œair gappedā€. I have terminal access to it, so I can do interesting things like, base64 encode a static binary to my clipboard and paste it to a file, then base64 decode it and execute. That’s about the only mechanisms I have.

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In-reply-to » @adi oh yeah, no doubt. I just like to keep an eye on these things because I hate being blindsided.

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, it’s true. Thing is, Linux as a desktop operating system sucked in 1996 yet I adopted it then anyway because I wanted nothing to do with MS anymore šŸ˜† I know it’s not for everyone but I’m pretty tolerant of a less-than-stellar experience if it means I can be free of big-company garbage.

I haven’t tried a Linux-based smartphone OS in a long time so I don’t have any idea how bad/good it might be. I figure when I finally break down and get a new phone I’ll experiment on my current phone.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me QR code printed on paper?

Not a bad option, although now we need a phone with camera, a printer, a QR reader app, to name a few…
And don’t let get started with usability issues of QR codes (like restaurant menus)

My idea is to make it easy to backup keys with pen and paper šŸ–‹ šŸ“„ without copying the hexadecimal string which is prone to error šŸ‘€

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In-reply-to » My proof-of-concept Container as a Service (CAS or CaaS) is now up and running. If anyone wants to have a play? šŸ¤” There's still heaps to do, lots of "features" missing, but you can run stuff at least šŸ˜…

@prologic@twtxt.net I had a feeling my container was not running remotely. It was too crisp.

podman is definitely capable of it. I’ve never used those features though so I’d have to play around with it awhile to understand how it works and then maybe I’d have a better idea of whether it’s possible to get it to work with cas.run.

There’s a podman-specific way of allowing remote container execution that wouldn’t be too hard to support alongside docker if you wanted to go that route. Personally I don’t use docker–too fat, too corporate. podman is lightweight and does virtually everything I’d want to use docker to do.

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No tengo idea cuanto tome tener un nivel escrito y hablado de Mini. Aunque me llama atención averiguarlo.

ParƔ el francƩs ha sido mƔs de un aƱo de unas cuantas horas a la semana y no he pasado del A1.

Definitivamente es un tema de prƔctica.

https://minilanguage.com/

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In-reply-to » I've only been using snac/the fediverse for a few days and already I've had to mute somebody. I know I come on strongly with my opinions sometimes and some people don't like that, but this person had already started going ad hominem (in my reading of it), and was using what felt to me like sketchy tactics to distract from the point I was trying to make and to shut down conversation. They were doing similar things to other people in the thread so rather than wait for it to get bad for me I just muted them. People get so weirdly defensive so fast when you disagree with something they said online. Not sure I fully understand that.

@prologic@twtxt.net attacking the person, not the idea. It’d be like if you said ā€œyarn is better than mastodon because it isn’t push basedā€ and someone who disagreed with you said ā€œwell you think that because you’re an idiotā€ or something like that.

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In-reply-to » I used to be a big fan of a service called cocalc, which you could also self host. It was kind of an integrated math, data science, research, writing, and teaching platform.

@prologic@twtxt.net It was super useful if you needed to do the sorts of things it did. I’m pretty sad.

At its core was Sage, a computational mathematics system, and their own version of Jupyter notebooks. So, you could do all kinds of different math stuff in a notebook environment and share that with people. But on top of that, there was a chat system, a collaborative editing system, a course management system (so if you were teaching a class using it you could keep track of students, assignments, grades, that sort of thing), and a bunch of other stuff I never used. It all ran in a linux container with python/conda as a base, so you could also drop to a terminal, install stuff in the container, and run X11 applications in the same environment. I never taught a class with it but I used to use it semi-regularly to experiment with ideas.

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In-reply-to » Quiero mantener una sesión por largo plazo (para no tener que estar poniendo el Password todo el tiempo).

la idea es que para llegar a una mayor descentralización requerimos pelear contra la conveniencia de plataformas tipo Twitter.
Ellos tienen toda tu Info y no te cobran por ello.

Al hacerte responsable de pagar el hosting, y abrirlo al mundo se rompe con esa centralización de muchos usuarios, un servidor.

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What I see here is that when I was reading your .txt, the timestamp was like 40 minutes later than current time. Say it’s 1pm and that twt is timed on 1.40pm

No idea why, perhaps your server has a wrong Timezone, or your twtxt tool is doing some timezome conversion?

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In-reply-to » I played with nlpodyssey/verbaflow: Neural Language Model for Go today a little bit today.... First I had to download a ~2GB file (the model), then convert that to a format the program verbaflow understands which came out to roughly ~5GB. Then I tried some of the samples in the README. My god, this this is so goddamn awfully slow its like watching paint dry 😱 All just to predict the next few tokens?! 😳 I had a look at the resource utilisation as well as it was trying to do this "work", using 100% of 1.5 Cores and ~10GB of Memory 😳 Who da fuq actually thinks any of this large language model (LLM) and neural network crap is actually any good or useful? šŸ¤” Its just garbage 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net You more or less need a data center to run one of these adequately (well, train…you can run a trained one with a little less hardware). I think that’s the idea–no one can run them locally, they have to rent them (and we know how much SaaS companies and VCs love the rental model of computing).

There’s a lot of promising research-grade work being done right now to produce models that can be run on a human-scale (not data-center-scale) computing setup. I suspect those will become more commonly deployed in the next few years.

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In-reply-to » @prologic hmm, dunno about the recency of that line of thought. I suspect though that given his (recent or not) history, if someone directly asked him "do you support rape" he would not say "no", he'd go on one of these rambling answers about property crime like he did in the video. Maybe I'm mind poisoned by being around academics my whole career, but that way of talking is how an academic gives you an answer they know will be unpopular. PhD = Piled Higher And Deeper, after all right? In other words, if he doesn't say "no" right away, he's saying "yes", except with so many words there's some uncertainty about whether he actually meant yes. And he damn well knows that, and that's why I give him no slack.

@prologic@twtxt.net It’s a fun challenge to see how many words you can say without expressing any ideas at all. Maybe this GPT stuff should be trained to do that!

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In-reply-to » @prologic hmm, dunno about the recency of that line of thought. I suspect though that given his (recent or not) history, if someone directly asked him "do you support rape" he would not say "no", he'd go on one of these rambling answers about property crime like he did in the video. Maybe I'm mind poisoned by being around academics my whole career, but that way of talking is how an academic gives you an answer they know will be unpopular. PhD = Piled Higher And Deeper, after all right? In other words, if he doesn't say "no" right away, he's saying "yes", except with so many words there's some uncertainty about whether he actually meant yes. And he damn well knows that, and that's why I give him no slack.

@prologic@twtxt.net

Let’s assume for a moment that an answer to a question would be met with so many words you don’t know what the answer was at all. Why? Why do this? Is this a stereotype of academics and philosophers? If so, it’s not a very straight-forward way of thinking, let alone answering a simple question.

Well, I can’t know what’s in these peoples’ minds and hearts. Personally I think it’s a way of dissembling, of sowing doubt, and of maintaining plausible deniability. The strategy is to persuade as many people as possible to change their minds, and then force the remaining people to accept the idea because they think too many other people believe it.

Let’s say you want, for whatever reason, to get a lot of people to accept an idea that you know most people find horrible. The last thing you should do is express the idea clearly and concisely and repeat it over and over again. All you’d accomplish is to cement people’s resistance to you, and label yourself as a person who harbors horrible ideas that they don’t like. So you can’t do that.

What do you do instead? The entire field of ā€œrhetoricā€, dating back at least to Plato and Aristotle (400 years BC), is all about this. How to persuade people to accept your idea, even when they resist it. There are way too many techniques to summarize in a twt, but it seems almost obvious that you have to use more words and to use misleading or at least embellished or warped descriptions of things, because that’s the opposite of clearly and concisely expressing yourself, which would directly lead to people rejecting your idea.

That’s how I think of it anyway.

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

I may have misspoken in my haste/anguish. I don’t know of any examples of Ben Shapiro advocating rape. I do know them of Jordan Peterson. He’s known for that, but I’ve seen it myself. So, to be clear, I don’t know if Ben Shapiro is a rape apologist and have no evidence of that. Wouldn’t surprise me frankly because the set of ideas he does talk about tends to include being A-OK with crimes against women, but anyway.

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

@prologic@twtxt.net When you unpack what he’s saying in that video (which I’ve watched, and just now re-watched), and strip away all his attempts to wrap this idea in fancy-sound language, he is saying: it would be better if women were viewed as property of men, because then if they were raped, the men who owned them would get mad and do something about it. Because rape would be a property crime then, like trespassing or theft. Left unspoken by him, but very much known to him, is that the man/men who ā€œownā€ a woman can then have their way with her, just like they can freely walk around their yard or use their own stuff. In his envisioned better world, it’d be impossible for a husband to rape his wife, for instance, because she is his property and he can do almost anything he wants (that’s literally what ā€œpropertyā€ is in Western countries).

It’s so fucked up it’s hard to put into words how fucked up it is. And this isn’t the only bad idea who bangs on about!

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

@prologic@twtxt.net It went there because you are supporting bad people who themselves operate at the level of outrage. You cannot have a ā€œdebateā€ about the ideas of someone like Peterson or Shapiro, because those ideas should not be considered debate-worthy. Rape is not OK, period, the end. It is not up for debate or discussion. Yet Peterson acts as if it is. That is abhorrent, and unacceptable in 2023.

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Quite predictably, the introduction of Chat GPT, has led to even more browser bloat. šŸŽ‰

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Also since I’m already bringing up opera - I have genuinely no idea, what their dev team is smoking, as all their additions this year, have been this desperate:

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From some cashback scam and TikTok integration…

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…all the way to some ā€œlonely men baitā€ and adding NFTs - a full year, after everyone stopped caring.

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In-reply-to » DEEPL now has a Writer https://www.deepl.com/write - very nice, fast and available in multiple languages. Write better texts, instantly.

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net

I have to write so many emails to so many idiots who have no idea what they are doing

So it sounds to me like the pressure is to reduce how much time you waste on idiots, which to my mind is a very good reason to use a text generator! I guess in that case you don’t mind too much whether the company making the AI owns your prompt text?

I’d really like to see tools like this that you can run on your desktop or phone, so they don’t send your hard work off to someone else and give a company a chance to take it from you.

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šŸ’” Quick ā€˜n Dirty prototype Yarn.social protocol/spec:

If we were to decide to write a new spec/protocol, what would it look like?

Here’s my rough draft (back of paper napkin idea):

  • Feeds are JSON file(s) fetchable by standard HTTP clients over TLS
  • WebFinger is used at the root of a user’s domain (or multi-user) lookup. e.g: prologic@mills.io -> https://yarn.mills.io/~prologic.json
  • Feeds contain similar metadata that we’re familiar with: Nick, Avatar, Description, etc
  • Feed items are signed with a ED25519 private key. That is all ā€œpostsā€ are cryptographically signed.
  • Feed items continue to use content-addressing, but use the full Blake2b Base64 encoded hash.
  • Edited feed items produce an ā€œEditedā€ item so that clients can easily follow Edits.
  • Deleted feed items produced a ā€œDeletedā€ item so that clients can easily delete cached items.

#Yarn.social #Protocol #Ideas

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