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In-reply-to » I have no idea what happened in/around instagram but, Holly Shi_ !! People have been pouring out of it and into #Pixelfed for hours now. 😆 way to go #Fedi

@prologic@twtxt.net IMHO: Most people like it the easy way: “Don’t make me think!”. If you do not pay money for a service, your data/content is the price to pay. Some handy mobile apps for the fediverse and the ongoing debate on social media services may get the people and their content out of the walled gardens of the 21st century.

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In-reply-to » it's epic that twtxt slash yarn doesn't have reposts or likes. it's just chill. replies and posting is all a site needs

@prologic@twtxt.net this is epic… you’ve made a great platform!!! screw big tech we got literal threads here. X, The Everything App, wishes it had literal yarn threads smh my head. also twtxt is so cool like i love that yarn is a frontend for it but also its own thing. all plaintext… coolest shit ever

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In-reply-to » @prologic Is it possible to interact with twtxt.net from outside? For example, an search API

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev What do you mean by API? yarnd (which powers Yarn.social pods like twtxt.net) does have an API, however that API is designed for clients to interact with the pod and the user’s account and feed. e.g: there is a command-line client called yarnc and I used to maintain a mobile native app (using Flutter).

What use-case did you have in mind?

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really wanna make an ssh zine app inspired by a telnet zine cms i found on github. i’m gonna probably go ahead with the telnet zine idea i have if i can get people for it but if i could build my own ssh mirror for it with golang and the charmbracelet wish library that’d be epic

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In-reply-to » tried building the yarn social app for android but wahhh android studio and flutter scare me... big ass IDEs and SDKs and shit not worth it

fair lol! i should give the web app a try, i don’t think i’ll get much use out of it from my phone anyway because i suck at typing on a phone but i might as well log in!

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In-reply-to » tried building the yarn social app for android but wahhh android studio and flutter scare me... big ass IDEs and SDKs and shit not worth it

Don’t waste your time. You can find builds in dist directory. Also it’s abandoned app which have more bugs

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In-reply-to » For Example:

I think we could discuss on implementation details like URLs and Handles.

@nick@nick (Masto/Yarn style)
vs
@nick.eapl.me and @eapl.me (Bsky style)

I see, for example, that yarn shows my account as @eapl.me@eapl.me which looks ‘weird’ although it’s not wrong since my domain and my nick are the same. Honestly I like more the Bsky approach as in https://bsky.app/profile/eapl.me for @eapl.me, as when you look for https://eapl.me, it’s my home page.

Also, I didn’t get it completely if you are also proposing a URL standard using subdomains, like https://nick.domain.tls. I only want to point out that these are more difficult to handle from shared hostings, so I’d prefer to also allow https://domain.tls/nick/

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One benefit with bluesky is your username is also a website. And not a clunky URL with slashes and such. I wish twtxt adopted that. I have advocated for webfinger to for twtxt to let us do something like it with usernames. Nostr has something like it

By default the bsky.social urls all redirect to their feeds like: hmpxvt.bsky.social
Many custom urls will redirect to some kind of linktree or just their feed cwebonline.com or la.bonne.petite.sour.is or if you are a major outlet just to your web presence like https://theonion.com‬ or https://netflix.com

Its just good SEO practice

Do all nostr addresses take you to the person if typed into a browser? That is the secret sauce.
No having to go to some random page first. no accounts. no apps to install. just direct to the person.

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In-reply-to » Yeah, @eapl.me, I kinda like file extensions in some situations. What do you think of twtxt.exe, @bender? ]:->

haha, that’s gold xD.

#randomMemory I remember when I was starting to code, like 30 years ago, not understanding why my Basic file didn’t run when I renamed it to .exe

And nowadays, I’ve seen a few Go apps in a single executable, so twtxt.exe could be a thing, he!

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No he jugado tanto el Pokemon TCG, más que en Game Boy y ahora en teléfono.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.pokemon.pokemontcgp

Es un juego que, al menos en la primera parte, está muy bien hecho, aunque al poco tiempo se acaba el factor ‘wow’.

Como vemos en ‘Leyendas y Videojuegos’, el juego móvil es más una demostración para una experiencia de como sería que colecciones las cartas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpAZCy8_-UI

Siento que mucha gente va a interesarse en coleccionarlas gracias a este ‘demo’.

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Bluesky Passes Threads for Active Website Users, But Confronts ‘Scammers and Impersonators’
Bluesky now has more active website users than Threads in the U.S., according to a graph from the Financial Times. And though Threads still leads in app usage, “Prior to November 5 Threads had five times more daily active users in the U.S. than Bluesky… Now, Threads is only 1.5 times larger tha … ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » i am working on very smol deployments, where a server may use two or so replicated sqlite databases instead of a db server like postgres to seamlessly move from single to multi-node arrangements as needed. there is a clear performance limit here, but the goal is not to serve a huge number of clients. just to do as much as possible with a small number of useful components that can be upgraded to handle up to medium size workloads, without difficult data conversions or migrations. scaling beyond that point should be done via federation.

for example, ejabberd, redka, and litefs. all using sqlite+litefs for their database needs allows agents to communicate over xmpp, matrix, mqtt, and sip. other applications can use sqlite for storage or speak the redis protocol to redka. ejabberd can also handle file uploads, static file publishing, identity, and various other web application services. when scaling, litefs integrates with consul to manage replication which grants the network access to service disco, encrypted mesh networking, and various other features that can be used to build secure service grids. ejabberd and redka can be scaled to multiple nodes that coordinate over the litefs replication protocol without any changes to the db storage config. other components can be configured to plug into this framework fairly easily as well. we keep the network config fairly simple by linking nodes together with yggdrasil to flatten the address space and then linking app nodes together using consul to provide secure routing for the local grid service. yggdrasil also offers utility for buliding federated networks in a similarly flat address space, for more secure communications i2p is also available in yggdrasil mode. minibase is wonderful, and we have not even started to talk about secure IoT.

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In-reply-to » Anyone thinking of trying our (or already are) the ATprotocok / BlueSky? 🤔

I think it’s centralized shit with lying about decentralization. All network is worked by two centralized things: plc.directory (did storage?) and network relay (bsky.network). You can host your relay but this require TOO MUCH resources (2TB storage and 32GB RAM read more ). Also i try running PDS and: 1. I can’t register account via app,only via cli 2. It leaked on 2GB virtual machine then killed by oom after trying to register account via cli

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In-reply-to » @codebuzz I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I've been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I'm in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They're both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

Thats quite good. I’m just thinking of how to keep things simple without needing databases (as a client app), for now it uses cache.. Would be great if a follower would have an AP-layerI over a twtxt and just fetch from the most recent timestamp known in my cache.

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In-reply-to » So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter's Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!

@codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I have some shell scripts that handle some of the log formatting details, but I mostly write my mesages by hand. Lately I’ve been browsing twtxt.net since they aggregate most of the known network. I have a couple of demo aggregators sitting around, but I’m in the middle of some infra rebuilds so a lot of my services are offline rn. They’re both built on a simple social graph analysis that extracts urls for your direct follows the follows listed on each of those feeds (friend-of-a-friend replication). certain formatting operations are awkward with my setup, so I may write an app of some kind in the future. likely gemini-based, but I have a number of projects ahead of that one in the queue.

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In-reply-to » So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter's Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!

Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?

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I installed GrapheneOS for the first time on Wednesday last week on a used Pixel 7a, and I’m impressed. Installation was almost seamless, and I was able to do it from another Android phone. I’ve run into very few wrinkles, even using Google’s proprietary apps with GrapheneOS’s “sandboxed” version of Google Play Services. The main problems I’ve noticed: I can’t cast, and Google Timeline doesn’t seem to work (though I imagine the intersection between people keen to use GrapheneOS and keen to have Google log their location history is pretty small).

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The Fediverse Is Getting Its Own TikTok Competitor Called Loops
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Similar to how Mastodon offers an open source, distributed version of X, the fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor. This week, an app called Loops began accepting signups on its new platform for sharing short, looping videos. Still in the early stages, Loops is not yet open sourced, nor … ⌘ Read more

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Simplified twtxt - I want to suggest some dogmas or commandments for twtxt, from where we can work our way back to how to implement different feature like replies/treads:

  1. It’s a text file, so you must be able to write it by hand (ie. no app logic) and read by eye. If you edit a post you change the content not the timestamp. Otherwise it will be considered a new post.

  2. The order of lines in a twtxt.txt must not hold any significant. The file is a container and each line an atomic piece of information. You should be able to run sort on a twtxt.txt and it should still work.

  3. Transport protocol should not matter, as long as the file served is the same. Http and https are preferred, so it is suggested that feed served via Gopher or Gemini also provide http(s).

  4. Do we need more commandments?

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In-reply-to » @prologic would you please check my web interface? is that a normal thing or am I missing something?

Web interface is deleted in https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim/commit/376de2702319686c902ec03b8ca1e17b020fc639 but seems incorrectly (in source i see git lfs metadata). Can be builded if you grab https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim/src/commit/15a64de82829/internal/web/app.wasm and place it in source (go directory has cached source) and rebuild

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zmq seems like an interesting tool for building task queues and other types of messaging apps. the other option i’m looking at is rabbitmq which has some interesting features like mqtt bridges and federation, but as a result involves a broker. i would like to eventually have all of the ships systems (or at least on the inter-system boundary) communicate over a brokerless messaging protocol. off the shelf env devices and trackers all communicate over an mqtt bridge so some brokering is probably unavoidable without getting into fully custom tech, but that’ll blow the budget.

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In-reply-to » Did Apple Just Kill Social Apps? Apple's iOS 18 update has introduced changes to contact sharing that could significantly impact social app developers. The new feature allows users to selectively share contacts with apps, rather than granting access to their entire address book. While Apple touts this as a privacy enhancement, developers warn it may hinder the growth of new social platforms. Nikita Bier, a start-up founder, called it "the en ... ⌘ Read more

Lol, this is actually a good thing by Apple. Doesn’t kill social apps at all, just prevents some harvesting of your entire address book by abusive apps like WhatsApp.

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Did Apple Just Kill Social Apps?
Apple’s iOS 18 update has introduced changes to contact sharing that could significantly impact social app developers. The new feature allows users to selectively share contacts with apps, rather than granting access to their entire address book. While Apple touts this as a privacy enhancement, developers warn it may hinder the growth of new social platforms. Nikita Bier, a start-up founder, called it “the en … ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » Only with dovecot xD. For mail im use android native mail client and not mutt. And jenny display some errors with found some files and /tmp dir (android dont have /tmp)

I believe I’d missed an f:

~/src/jenny $ git diff
diff --git a/jenny b/jenny
index ada8da2..8ae9a06 100755
--- a/jenny
+++ b/jenny
@@ -1194,7 +1194,7 @@ if __name__ == '__main__':
     if args.edit:
	edit_twt_file(app)
     elif args.fetch:
-        with DirectoryLock(f'/tmp/jenny-{getuser()}.run'):
+        with DirectoryLock(expanduser(f'~/tmp/jenny-{getuser()}.run')):
             retrieve_all(app)
     elif args.last_seen:
	 print('Feeds last seen at (times are local time), oldest first:')

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In-reply-to » Only with dovecot xD. For mail im use android native mail client and not mutt. And jenny display some errors with found some files and /tmp dir (android dont have /tmp)

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt I’ve just given it a try on android/termux and got it to work, I can’t promise it won’t break something else (because i definitely don’t know what I’m doing) but here’s what I broke 😅:

~/src/jenny $ git diff
diff --git a/jenny b/jenny
index ada8da2..8ae9a06 100755
--- a/jenny
+++ b/jenny
@@ -1194,7 +1194,7 @@ if __name__ == '__main__':
     if args.edit:
	edit_twt_file(app)
     elif args.fetch:
-        with DirectoryLock(f'/tmp/jenny-{getuser()}.run'):
+        with DirectoryLock(expanduser('~/tmp/jenny-{getuser()}.run')):
             retrieve_all(app)
     elif args.last_seen:
	 print('Feeds last seen at (times are local time), oldest first:')

and of course make sure you mkdir ~/tmp

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In-reply-to » I’m still more in favor of (replyto:…). It’s easier to implement and the whole edits-breaking-threads thing resolves itself in a “natural” way without the need to add stuff to the protocol.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I cases of these kind of “abuse” of social trust. Then I think people should just delete their replies, unfollow the troll and leave them to shouting in the void. This is a inter-social issue, not a technical issue. Anything can be spoofed. We are not building a banking app, we are just having conversation and if trust are broken then communication breaks down. These edge-cases are all very hypothetical and not something I think we need to solve with technology.

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