@bender@twtxt.net Seriously I have zero clue 🤣 I don’t read or watch any news so I have no idea 🤦♂️
The big QR code canine, has been one of my favourites - because even after a few months, I still find the pose really cute. Always thought a chibi version is a necessary addition and now I finally drew it.
@prologic@twtxt.net I know you were away, but were you under a rock?! 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, no doubt. There’s always something somewhere.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Some stuff is actually more reliable, that’s true. It’s also waaaaaaaaaaay more expensive, though … :-)
I called it a day, yes. \o/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de But it’s so reliable and they have all the experts, they know what they’re doing! And don’t forget, it’s way cheaper! Just think of the 34 cents saved every year on paper, the business dude calculated!
Enjoy your weekend! (I hope, you just called it a day and don’t have to drive to the office or silly shenanigans like that.)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yep! Super fast and efficient! 😃
long month
@prologic@twtxt.net welcome back! 🥳🥳🥳
@movq@www.uninformativ.de That’s transparency hardware support!
While working on the Discoverability for my twtxt client (it runs client-side) I found out that Chrome doesn’t allow to set a custom user agent. 🙃
I thought it was a general thing for browsers, but it that was actually allowed in a newer specification, yet it’s still not implemented in Chrome, it does work in Firefox though.
nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don't see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@zvava@twtxt.net In tt
, I recognize umlauts in nicks, but they cannot include whitespace, @
, !
, #
, (
, )
, [
, ]
, <
, >
, "
(but '
is okay). Whitespace also acts as a separator between nick and URL. @<Hello World http://example.com>
ends up exactly like that and is not a mention.
@zvava@twtxt.net I kinda fixed the issue by not stripping the timestamp at all.
Seems that more feeds work correctly this way. 🤔
@thecanine@twtxt.net With a progressive web app (PWA) you can have a native like experience without having to trouble yourself with building a second project that act as a client.
You can even “wrap” it into a packaged installation and publish it on stores, theres even projects to streamline it https://www.pwabuilder.com/.
@zvava@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I also think a location based reference might be better.
A thread is a single post of a single feed as a root, but the hash has the drawback of not referencing the source, in a distributed network like twtxt it might leave some people out of the whole conversation.
I suggest a simpler format, something like: (#<TIMESTAMP URL>)
This solves three issues:
- Easier referencing: no need to generate a hash, just copy the timestamp and url, it’s also simpler to implement in a client without the rish of collisions when putting things together
- Fetchable source: you can find the source within the reference and construct the thread from there
- Allow editing: If a post is modified the hash becomes invalid since it depends on
[ timestamp, url, content ]
nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don't see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@zvava@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de I also was wondering how to handle this.
Currently my regex is like this: /@<((?<nick>[^\s]+)\s)?(?<url>\w+:\/\/[^>]+)>/g
It takes everything until the space and the nick is optional.
Hello everyone! 👋
After a long while away, I’m back on twtxt with this new feed.
Some of you might remember me as justamoment@twtxt.net
, that was a test account I made for trying things out, but I ended up keeping it more than planned.
I also tried other social platforms in search of a place that felt right for me.
In the end twtxt was the one that ticked all of my boxes:
- Slow social: it act more like a feed reader and I really appreciate that there’s no flood of content that I can’t keep up with.
- No server needed: I absolutely love to have total control over my content, I tend to avoid having moving parts that might break, plus you can put your feed under version control and it’s all backed up.
- Ownership: I can put my feed anywhere I want and nobody can decide if I can access it or not.
- For hackers: a single .txt file allows me to join a community, how cool is that!
This is why I decided to build my own twtxt client, one that allows you to decide how the feed is presented on your “instance”.
It’s still in the making but I’ll try to share a bit of it once I defined how things should work.
Coincidentally, I discovered that @itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com and @zvava@twtxt.net were also building a twtxt client, seems like twtxt is set to grow!
Apologies if I’ve been spamming anyone out there in twtxt-land today.
I’ve been working on a couple of twtxt-related projects, and one of them is a reader (tentatively called twtstrm
) written in JS. I used dummy data for the first few stages of development, but now I’m at the point where I need some real data, and that meant hitting up my actual following list.
Of course, it didn’t help that I had a typo in my If-Modified-Since
headers, but all that has since been resolved.
Anyways, if I accidentally spammed you with requests today, I am sorry, and it shouldn’t happen anymore.
We thank you for your patience, and apologize for the inconvenience.
Apologies if I’ve been spamming anyone out there in twtxt-land today.
I’ve been working on a couple of twtxt-related projects, and one of them is a reader (tentatively called twtstrm
) written in JS. I used dummy data for the first few stages of development, but now I’m at the point where I need some real data, and that meant hitting up my actual following list.
Of course, it didn’t help that I had a typo in my If-Modified-Since
headers, but all that has since been resolved.
Anyways, if I accidentally spammed you with requests today, I am sorry, and it shouldn’t happen anymore.
We thank you for your patience, and apologize for the inconvenience.
@bender@twtxt.net Soon soon🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net ah! Well, keeping fingers crossed for you and family on that RV, for sure! 🤞🏻
@bender@twtxt.net I wish 🤣 Nah work on-site thingy😆
@prologic@twtxt.net ah, I was wondering! Hoping you are having a good time, mate! Christening the new RV? :-)
https://andros.dev/texudus.txt
, its url doesn't correspond to the feed either
I know it doesn’t need to be said, but “Texudus” is not twtxt. It is an attempt to create a, arguably, “better way™️”. 🤭
https://andros.dev/texudus.txt
, its url doesn't correspond to the feed either
@zvava@twtxt.net ah, yes, that’s the only Texudus feed. It also seems it is a one way only feed.
@bender@twtxt.net https://andros.dev/texudus.txt
, its url doesn’t correspond to the feed either
/^([-_\p{N}\p{L}])+$/iu
because i don't like how english-centric only allowing ascii letters/numbers is though this only applies to local users as of now, currently all nicknames are tolerated when parsing remote feeds and i just do mentions how yarn does (just the feed url)
@zvava@twtxt.net which Texodus feed? That I know of, there is only one, or am I wrong?
nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don't see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de bbycll’s nickname regex is /^([-_\p{N}\p{L}])+$/iu
because i don’t like how english-centric only allowing ascii letters/numbers is though this only applies to local users as of now, currently all nicknames are tolerated when parsing remote feeds and i just do mentions how yarn does (just the feed url)
in the wild, i’ve noticed a texedus feed with spaces in the nick (where its spec explicitly disallows whitespace in the nick) and feeds with other symbols in the nick too. honestly, i think we should just tolerate arbitrary nicknames for sake of user expression (while stripping or converting unreasonable characters) and just leave them out of mentions
nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don't see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@zvava@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m not entirely sure about the spaces, but maybe they were omitted to simplify parsing of mentions in the form of @<nick url>
. If the next token after the @<nick
does not look like a URL, it’s not a mention but regular text. This is just wild guessing, though.
Looking at the regex and tests in the original twtxt reference implementation seems to confirm that theory in the sense as it relies on whitespace as the delimiter:
https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/screenshot-2025-09-17-21-30-25.png
Another thing about nicks is that the original twtxt reference implementation converts nicks to all lowercase:
https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/screenshot-2025-09-17-21-20-39.png
You probably know this already, the original twtxt file format specification can be found here: https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/twtxtfile.html
As for extensions, I don’t know of anything outside of twtxt.dev that has actually been (partially) implemented. However, there is also the issue tracker of the official reference implementation. You might wanna dig through that. For example, there is an alternative suggestions of multiline messages: https://github.com/buckket/twtxt/issues/157
@arne@uplegger.eu Hm, noch nie gemacht. 🤔 Machst du das von Hand oder mit Code?
nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don't see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@zvava@twtxt.net Good question. This is the spec, I think:
https://twtxt.dev/exts/metadata.html#nick
It doesn’t say much. 🤔
In the wild, I’ve only seen “traditional” nick names, i.e. ASCII 0x21 thru 0x7E.
My client removes anything but r'[a-zA-Z0-9]'
from nick names.
is there consensus on what characters should(n’t) be allowed in nick
s? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don’t see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz, see this one, regarding “Anubis” (which I believe you use, right?): https://github.com/eternal-flame-AD/pow-buster
@rrraksamam@twtxt.net someone has a huge crush on Emily Blunt, eh? 🤭
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Omg, that is great. 😃
@zvava@twtxt.net There would be only one hash for a message. Some to be defined magic date selects which hash to use. If the message creation timestamp is before this epoch, hash it with v1, otherwise hammer it through v2. Eventually, support for v1 could be dropped as nobody interacts with the old stuff anymore. But I’d keep it around in my client, because why not.
If users choose a client which supports the extensions, they don’t have to mess around with v1 and v2 hashing, just like today.
As for the school of thought, personally, I’d prefer something else, too. I’m in camp location-based addressing, or whatever it is called. There more I think about it, a complete redesign of twtxt and its extensions would be necessary in my opinion. Retrofitting has its limits. Of course, this is much more work, though.
@thecanine@twtxt.net Id like that too, it just can’t come from me, because native mobile dev just isn’t my thing 😢
@zvava@twtxt.net And yes yarnd
does have a well documented API and two clients (CLI and unmaintained Flutter App)
@zvava@twtxt.net We can do that 👌
@zvava@twtxt.net Not much of a known fact these days, but thereused to be a Yarn phone app (https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/app), last version released 5 or so years ago, but it still suggests, it has to be somewhat feasable, to make another one. I don’t think anyone tried since, because the web version works well on phones, but I’m still hoping, we get a more native phone experience, one day.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org i dont mind if the hash is not backward compatible but im not sure if this is the right way to proceed because the added complexity dealing with two hash versions isnt justified
regular end users wont care to understand how twt hashes are formed, they just want to use twtxt! so i guess i could work in protecting users from themselves by disallowing post edits on old posts or posts with replies, but i’m not fond of this either really. if they want to break a thread, they can just delete the post (though i’ve noticed yarn handling post deletes dubiously…)
on activitypub i do genuinely find myself looking through several month or even year old posts sometimes and deciding to edit/reword them a little to be slightly less confusing, this should be trivial to handle on twtxt which is an infinitely simpler specification
@bender@twtxt.net @thecanine@twtxt.net well now this has me thinking abt the feasibility of making an android twtxt app for pods, the actual apis of pods would have to be standardized (or a fucked up version of how activitypub does it, where the “mastodon api” is the defacto client api (does yarn even have an api reference?)) or the client is just simply..a client..but editing feeds via PUT, PATCH, DELETE etc. is standardized!…? (not to mention i dont even know where to begin making an android app lmao)
@bender@twtxt.net @thecanine@twtxt.net well now this has me thinking abt the feasibility of making an android twtxt app for pods, the actual apis of pods would have to be standardized (or the fucked up way that activitypub does it, where the “mastodon api” is the defacto client api (does yarn even have an api reference?)) or the client is just simply..a client..but editing feeds via PUT, PATCH, DELETE etc. is standardized!…? (not to mention i dont even know where to begin making an android app lmao)
@bender@twtxt.net yeah i’ve noticed yarn being very strange with edits, deletes haven’t worked since i joined here
@quark@ferengi.one ooh, thanks for catching that! i forgot abt the caddy example when adding the config example
nick is nick bc it is parsed as a nickname just for the instance, though calling it instance_nick would probably be less confusing
Wanting to add, this isn’t a twtxt client. It is Yarnd on steroids! 😂
@thecanine@twtxt.net it should work everywhere. It is a web application.
@zvava@twtxt.net love the direction this is heading, hope this soon evolves into a basic Android app, usable with any instance.