@movq@www.uninformativ.de omg YAML is so demonic like it pretends to be readable and then THE SPACING. THE FUCKING SPACING

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LMAOOOO

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I kind of like XML because it’s mostly well-defined and easy for humans to read (unlike YAML, which is a complete mess, imho) … and at the same time, it can get complicated really fast. 🫤 But at least it’s plain-text – that’s the important part in this case. 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org SOOOOO PRETTY

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz likeeee how cute is this

@movq@www.uninformativ.de XML is so terrifying but kinda underrated tbh

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i wanna catch up on the twts!!!

@bender@twtxt.net Yes! You guys have this thing called a “5th wheeler” 🤣 We (Aussies) just don’t normally have big enough trucks to drag those “House on wheels” though 😅

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt Haha, nice! :-D I haven’t come across this one before.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I know web server which reject request with Referrer header

@movq@www.uninformativ.de That’s an interesting idea. For privacy, I’d just omit the Referer altogether. But maybe this helps talking to misconfigured HTTP servers that reject requests without such a header. No clue.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hm, I don’t think so, the requested page was a Linux-specific post. 🤔 I sometimes wonder if privacy-oriented browsers might do this on purpose, to create garbage data? 🤔 No idea.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I honestly wish I could do more than just sit here and wait. It’s just a matter of time until they remove X.Org from the repos. 🫤 But I really can’t dedicate so much time to this …

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I only know three letters: S (…), O (—) and E (.). ;-)

@arne@uplegger.eu Das ist wie mit Kulis. Die verschwinden auch urplötzlich auf völlig unerklärliche Weise.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, you can’t rely on them. Anybody could just transmit whatever they wanted. Bots and spammers abuse them all the time. But maybe some older version of that page actually referenced your site. :-?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de X.org forever!

@bender@twtxt.net Even I don’t believe in that anymore. :‘(

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Don’t remind me about Morse. I really wanted to learn that and tried so for quite a while, but no success. 😢

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ja, eine kleine Inventur vorab kann auch nicht schaden. Der Bestand an Erdankern, Heringen und Gaskartuschen ist durch mich die Tage schon wieder aufgestockt worden.
Wo das Gas bleibt weiß ich. Warum die Befestigungen immer weniger werden, obwohl wir durchzählen (!), ist mir unbekannt. Vielleicht sind wir im Zahlenraum von 1 bis 20 einfach nur noch sehr unsicher. 🤓

@bender@twtxt.net Finally! Let’s wait and see how it turns out. :-D

@arne@uplegger.eu Au, Zelturlaub klingt klasse! Bei mir ist es auch bald so weit, freu mich schon. Dank der Ausrüstungsüberprüfung im Materiallager haben wir demletzt festgestellt, dass gleich zwei Spinnen (so Metallketten, an denen die Jurtendächer hochgezogen werden) fehlen. Ein Probeaufbau – und sei es nur unter Laborbedingungen – lohnt sich in jedem Fall. Improvisieren zu können ist zwar von Vorteil, aber wenn es sich vermeiden lässt, fängt der Urlaub gleich ein wenig entspannter an. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh wait, I should post a picture of my old Walkman and a couple of cassette tapes to verify 😆

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, you gotta love when a “totally real decentralized protocol” does that. How are they doing this and still pretending to be one, is beyond me.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I also had to laugh when I saw that. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Don’t forget about Morse Key Monday and Teletypewriter Tuesday.

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com And I read the following funny response to that:

Bluesky: Users verify their age by adding a payment method or uploading a photo ID.

Mastodon: Users verify their age by posting pictures of the vintage computer equipment in their homes.

https://beige.party/@maxleibman/114848276288629121

😏

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Permaculture should do the trick 😉

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 06.jpg is quite funny. Block the road for 30 minutes! %)

@bender@twtxt.net Hm, it is now. 🤔 I should have made a screenshot when I first saw it.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de it is.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de That’s really cool! I wanted to experiment with Landlock in tt as well. But other than just thinking about it, nothing really happened.

Depending on the available Landlock ABI version your kernel supports, you might even restrict connect(…) calls to ports 80, 443 and maybe whatever else has been configured in the subscription list.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, it’s not a strong sandbox in jenny’s case, it could still read my SSH private key (in case of an exploit of some sort). But I still like it.

I think my main takeaway is this: Knowing that technologies like Landlock/pledge/unveil exist and knowing that they are very easy to use, will probably nudge me into writing software differently in the future.

jenny was never meant to be sandboxed, so it can’t make great use of it. Future software might be different.

(And this is finally a strong argument for static linking.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Nice! 👍

PSA: setpriv on Linux supports Landlock.

If this twt goes through, then restricting the filesystem so that jenny can only write to ~/Mail/twt, ~/www/twtxt.txt, ~/.jenny-cache, and /tmp works.

@iolfree@tilde.club Oh dear! All the best to this feller. I wouldn’t want to trade places with him.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Haha 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net That’s what I thought as well, sounds way too expensive to me. But I have no idea what the prices are over here. Probably also astronomical. Campers sit around most of the time, one really would need to use them a lot to justify spending so much money on them.

But yeah, each to their own (expensive) hobbies. :-) I, for example, burn my money on tools that I don’t really™ need. :-P

@bender@twtxt.net An older Firefox on Debian.

@prologic@twtxt.net well, the ones down there (on your list) are pretty minimal, basic even. Yet, their pricing is super high (number wise, haven’t checked the equivalent from AUD to USD).

@bender@twtxt.net are they really though when you factor in the weaker AUD? 🧐

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org which browser do you use? Chrome, Edge, and Firefox, under Ubuntu, all show it fine.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de This one is too bleeding edge for me, not even my browser can render it.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I dislike him big time. It was a sad day when Tumblr felt on his hands.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, if there’s no stable API, then it’s not a lot of fun … Bah. :|

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ok 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net i’ll email you!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I couldn’t agree more! It’s far from easy. I’m not free of this guilt either. But I’m hardly trying.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’d love to have a Python script pushing my local CSV, too. But that’s never gonna fly, not in a thousand years. I can’t imagine that ever becoming reasonably stable without having to fix everything after the reverse-engineered API changes again.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org dmenu is a great example.

There have been several attempts at porting dmenu from X11 to Wayland. Well, not exactly “porting” it, more like rewriting it from scratch. Turns out: It’s not that easy.

dmenu is super fast and reliable. None of the Wayland rewrites are (at least none of the popular ones that I know of). They are either bloated and/or slow.

It takes a lot of discipline and restraint to write simple software and not blow up the codebase. This is much harder than people think. It’s a form of art, really.