Maybe Iâm just used to the text-only ecosystems of Gopher and Gemini by now, but even Nostr feels too noisy for me.
My Gemlog now finally has an Atom feed for Gemini as well as for the web at marcorocco.net/atom.xml.
I dread the day that someone accuses an entry on my Gemini log or a cover letter to an employer of being created by AI. Itâs just the way I write, I promise!
Criada pĂĄgina que lista os membros que criaram a sua prĂłpria cĂĄpsula gemini.
Tutorial sobre o protocolo Gemini foi publicado.
Servidor do protocolo gemini foi adicionado no Vaporhole.
I joined SDF five years ago todayâwhich means my fifth anniversary on Gemini is coming up alarmingly soon.
@bender@twtxt.net gemini-cli, something something https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/16723
/me clones the repository, calls gemini-cli, and asks for an executive summary. Gemini-CLI replies âDonât bother!â LOL.
2025 end the year rewind:
Compared to only 3 new artworks in 2024 and next to no work, on other projects, this year I not only met the self-imposed goal of monthly pixelart, but exceeded it by 50%, with 18 additions in total.
Relicensed the majority of canine faction owned art and projects, under two less restrictive Creative Commons licensees*. This also applies retroactively, to everyone who used/archived our art and projects, back when the old license didnât allow it.
Disappointed by the current state of the Internet and continued lack of competition among browsers, completely reworked the main website* and made Smol Drive** (a new image gallery project), both made to be compatible with as many web and Gemini browsers, as possible.
*see https://thecanine.smol.pub
**see https://thecanine.smol.pub/smolbox
Sending this from the Lagrange Gemini Protocol Client!
I love this quote. âDependencies are a lot like sexual partners, and it seems most (all?) programming languages are trying to make it easy to be as promiscuous as possible via internal package managers.â gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/s/Reticulum/35090
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Gemini agrees. :-)
I used Gemini (the Google AI) twice at work today, asking about Google Workspace configuration and Google Cloud CLI usage (because we use those a lot). Youâd think that itâd be well-suited for those topics. It answered very confidently, yet completely wrong. Just wrong. Made-up CLI arguments, whatever. It took me a while to notice, though, because itâs so convincing and, well, you implicitly and subconsciously trust the results of the Google AI when asking about Google topics, donât you?
Will it get better over time? Maybe. But what I really want is this:
- Good, well-structured, easy-to-read, proper documentation. Google isnât doing too bad in this regard, actually, itâs just that they have so much stuff that itâs hard to find what youâre looking for. Hence âŚ
- ⌠I want a good search function. Just give me a good fuzzy search for your docs. Thatâs it.
I just donât have the time or energy to constantly second-guess this stuff. Give me something reliable. Something that is designed to do the right thing, not toy around with probabilities. âAI for everythingâ is just the wrong approach.
@bender@twtxt.net to work through both https and gemini, the site is not written in HTML, but in Gemtext, automatically converted to HTML, when needed. Gemtext is nicely explained for example here: https://garden.bouncepaw.com/hypha/gemtext . In short, it is so limited, no line can be more than one thing, so no links in a list are possible, othar than doing it through something like this primitive workaround.
Just a small update, on my birthday (on the 5th), I accidentally deleted the main page, of my website, so Iâm using that as an opportunity, to try something new, at https://thecanine.smol.pub or gemini://thecanine.smol.pub - depending on your preferred protocol.
Any feedback is welcome!
⌠and now I just read @bender@twtxt.netâs other post that said the Gemini text was a shortened version, so I might have criticized things that werenât true for the full version. Okay, sorry, Iâm out. (And I wonât play that game, either. Donât send me another AI output, possibly tweaked to address my criticism. That is besides the point and not worth my time.)
@prologic@twtxt.net Letâs go through it one by one. Hereâs a wall of text that took me over 1.5 hours to write.
The criticism of AI as untrustworthy is a problem of misapplication, not capability.This section says AI should not be treated as an authority. This is actually just what I said, except the AI phrased/framed it like it was a counter-argument.
The AI also said that users must develop âAI literacyâ, again phrasing/framing it like a counter-argument. Well, that is also just what I said. I said you should treat AI output like a random blog and you should verify the sources, yadda yadda. That is âAI literacyâ, isnât it?
My text went one step further, though: I said that when you take this requirement of âAI literacyâ into account, you basically end up with a fancy search engine, with extra overhead that costs time. The AI missed/ignored this in its reply.
Okay, so, the AI also said that you should use AI tools just for drafting and brainstorming. Granted, a very rough draft of something will probably be doable. But then you have to diligently verify every little detail of this draft â okay, fine, a draft is a draft, itâs fine if it contains errors. The thing is, though, that you really must do this verification. And I claim that many people will not do it, because AI outputs look sooooo convincing, they donât feel like a draft that needs editing.
Can you, as an expert, still use an AI draft as a basis/foundation? Yeah, probably. But hereâs the kicker: You did not create that draft. You were not involved in the âthought processâ behind it. When you, a human being, make a draft, you often think something like: âOkay, I want to draw a picture of a landscape and thereâs going to be a little house, but for now, Iâll just put in a rough sketch of the house and add the details later.â You are aware of what you left out. When the AI did the draft, you are not aware of whatâs missing â even more so when every AI output already looks like a final product. For me, personally, this makes it much harder and slower to verify such a draft, and I mentioned this in my text.
Skill Erosion vs. Skill EvolutionYou, @prologic@twtxt.net, also mentioned this in your car tyre example.
In my text, I gave two analogies: The gym analogy and the Google Translate analogy. Your car tyre example falls in the same category, but Geminiâs calculator example is different (and, again, gaslight-y, see below).
What I meant in my text: A person wants to be a programmer. To me, a programmer is a person who writes code, understands code, maintains code, writes documentation, and so on. In your example, a person who changes a car tyre would be a mechanic. Now, if you use AI to write the code and documentation for you, are you still a programmer? If you have no understanding of said code, are you a programmer? A person who does not know how to change a car tyre, is that still a mechanic?
No, youâre something else. You should not be hired as a programmer or a mechanic.
Yes, that is âskill evolutionâ â which is pretty much my point! But the AI framed it like a counter-argument. It didnât understand my text.
(But what if thatâs our future? What if all programming will look like that in some years? I claim: Itâs not possible. If you donât know how to program, then you donât know how to read/understand code written by an AI. You are something else, but youâre not a programmer. It might be valid to be something else â but that wasnât my point, my point was that youâre not a bloody programmer.)
Geminiâs calculator example is garbage, I think. Crunching numbers and doing mathematics (i.e., âcomplex problem-solvingâ) are two different things. Just because you now have a calculator, doesnât mean itâll free you up to do mathematical proofs or whatever.
What would have worked is this: Letâs say youâre an accountant and you sum up spendings. Without a calculator, this takes a lot of time and is error prone. But when you have one, you can work faster. But once again, thereâs a little gaslight-y detail: A calculator is correct. Yes, it could have âbugsâ (hello Intel FDIV), but its design actually properly calculates numbers. AI, on the other hand, does not understand a thing (our current AI, that is), itâs just a statistical model. So, this modified example (âaccountant with a calculatorâ) would actually have to be phrased like this: Suppose thereâs an accountant and you give her a magic box that spits out the correct result in, what, I donât know, 70-90% of the time. The accountant couldnât rely on this box now, could she? Sheâd either have to double-check everything or accept possibly wrong results. And that is how I feel like when I work with AI tools.
Gemini has no idea that its calculator example doesnât make sense. It just spits out some generic âargumentâ that it picked up on some website.
3. The Technical and Legal Perspective (Scraping and Copyright)The AI makes two points here. The first one, I might actually agree with (âbad bot behavior is not the fault of AI itselfâ).
The second point is, once again, gaslighting, because it is phrased/framed like a counter-argument. It implies that I said something which I didnât. Like the AI, I said that you would have to adjust the copyright law! At the same time, the AI answer didnât even question whether itâs okay to break the current law or not. It just said âlol yeah, change the lawsâ. (I wonder in what way the laws would have to be changed in the AIâs âopinionâ, because some of these changes could kill some business opportunities â or the laws would have to have special AI clauses that only benefit the AI techbros. But I digress, that wasnât part of Geminiâs answer.)
tl;drExcept for one point, I donât accept any of Geminiâs âcriticismâ. It didnât pick up on lots of details, ignored arguments, and I can just instinctively tell that this thing does not understand anything it wrote (which is correct, itâs just a statistical model).
And it framed everything like a counter-argument, while actually repeating what I said. Thatâs gaslighting: When Alice says âthe sky is blueâ and Bob replies with âwhy do you say the sky is purple?!â
But it sure looks convincing, doesnât it?
Never againThis took so much of my time. I wonât do this again. đ
@prologic@twtxt.net when I first âfedâ the text to Gemini, I asked for a three paragraphs summary. It provided it. Then I asked to âelaborate on three areas: user experience, moral/political impact, and technical/legal concernsâ. The reply to that is too long for a twtxt.
I then asked to counter the OP opinionsâas in âhow would you counter the authorâs opinion?â. The reply was very long, but started like this:
âThatâs an excellent question, as the post lays out some very strong, well-reasoned criticisms. Countering these points requires acknowledging the valid concerns while presenting a perspective focused on mitigation, responsible integration, and the unique benefits of AI.â
What followed was extensive, so I asked for a summary, which didnât do justice to the wall of text that preceded it.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I am genuinely curious as to why you think Geminis summarization and the categorization of your gopher post was and is as you say misunderstood?
I asked this very genuinely because before reading @bender@twtxt.netâs comments and Gemini summarization I actually went and unplugged your post into flood gaps go for proxy, and then listen to the text intently with my own human ears đ
@movq@www.uninformativ.de this I find more worrisome, and saw no mention of it on your text: Right-Wing Chatbots Turbocharge Americaâs Political and Cultural Wars (gift article).
Enoch, one of the newer chatbots powered by artificial intelligence, promises âto âmind wipeâ the pro-pharma biasâ from its answers. Another, Arya, produces content based on instructions that tell it to be an âunapologetic right-wing nationalist Christian A.I. model.â
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Gemini liked your opinion very much. Here is how it countered:
1. The User Perspective (Untrustworthiness)The criticism of AI as untrustworthy is a problem of misapplication, not capability.
- AI as a Force Multiplier: AI should be treated as a high-speed drafting and brainstorming tool, not an authority. For experts, it offers an immense speed gain, shifting the work from slow manual creation to fast critical editing and verification.
- The Rise of AI Literacy: Users must develop a new skillâAI literacyâto critically evaluate and verify AIâs probabilistic output. This skill, along with improving citation features in AI tools, mitigates the âgaslightingâ effect.
The fear of skill loss is based on a misunderstanding of how technology changes the nature of work; itâs skill evolution, not erosion.
- Shifting Focus to High-Level Skills: Just as the calculator shifted focus from manual math to complex problem-solving, AI shifts the focus from writing boilerplate code to architectural design and prompt engineering. It handles repetitive tasks, freeing humans for creative and complex challenges.
- Accessibility and Empowerment: AI serves as a powerful democratizing tool, offering personalized tutoring and automation to people who lack deep expertise. While dependency is a risk, this accessibility empowers a wider segment of the population previously limited by skill barriers.
The legal and technical flaws are issues of governance and ethical practice, not reasons to reject the core technology.
- Need for Better Bot Governance: Destructive scraping is a failure of ethical web behavior and can be solved with better bot identification, rate limits, and protocols (like enhanced
robots.txt). The solution is to demand digital citizenship from AI companies, not to stop AI development.
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Been playing on sdf.org the past couple days. Itâs like wandering through a commune made of unix. If youâre a cli sort and on gemini, check it out. It feels very âsmolwebâ even though its more than that.
A fun little evening has left me with a little toy gemini server written in common lisp. It can do cgi, mime, and redirects at the moment. If I can get it to where Iâm happy with it going to try to serve my capsule off it but in no hurry. Would like to get it right :)
I just setup automatic federation for my Station tinylog on here to gemini://remort.app/twtxt.txt for those who prefer that format. Thereâs a bit of a delay - I donât want to just constantly poll Station here but its automatic.
Hi everyone. New to geminispace. I have a little baby capsule up at gemini://remort.app Just exploring and trying to get plugged in!
For those not on Gemini, a proxy provides more insides on such, hmm, interesting acronym. :-D
I think Iâm gonna participate in ROOPHLOCH this year: gemini://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/announcing-roophloch-2025.gmi
So, in addition to HTTPS and Gemini, my twtxt should now also be available over Gopher (gopher://hashnix.club:70/0/~dce/twtxt.txt). Not sure who, if anyone, would need this; but since my tilde provides Gopher hosting, Iâd may as well mirror my twtxt there as well.
@dce@hashnix.club I donât use Gemini, but I follow you on the good, old, HTTP(S)! :-)
Assuming I configured this right, my twtxt should now also be available over Gemini!
Hereâs an interesting thought/angle on this topic:
gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2025/08/21.1
A further check showed that all the network blocks are owned by one organizationâTencent [4]. Iâm seriously thinking that the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) encourage this with maybe the hope of externalizing the cost of the Great Firewall [5] to the rest of the world.
gemini://search.solarpunk.au/
Really, it wonât be long until I give the world the finger and move everything behind Gopher or Gemini. Itâll be a while until the bots find me there.
Happy 6th birthday, Gemini protocol!
Hace varios meses que no escribĂa nada en mi capsula Gemini, hoy lo he vuelto hacer gemini://texto-plano.xyz/yejokjanan/2025-06-05.gmi
When I chose the MIT license for all of my software, I thought:
âShould I use GPL, which I donât really understand? Is that worth it? Yeah, there is a theoretical possibility that some company might use my code in their proprietary product ⌠and then what? Should I sue them to enforce the GPL? Iâm not going to do that anyway, so Iâll just use the MIT license.â
And now we have those LLM scrapers and now itâs suddenly a reality that these companies (ab)use my code. I can see it in my logs. I didnât expect that back then.
GPL wouldnât help, either, of course. (Regardless, I now think that GPL would have been the better choice anyway.)
Iâm honestly considering taking my code and website offline. Maybe make it accessible through some obscure protocol like Gopher or Gemini, but no more HTTP.
(Yes, Anubis might help. Temporarily.)
Iâm just tired.
Farrrk me Google search is and these days. Will they please âfuck offâ with this Gemini AI garbage at the top that takes forever and is distracting as shit⢠đŠ Fark me đ¤Śââď¸ #Google #Search #Sucks #AI #Gemini
my new plant gemini://astrobotany.mozz.us/public/7c5f294a97154557af2bf0f8ecb8c1ec/m1 #astrobotany
de vuelta a tinylog! -> gemini://station.martinrue.com/dev1lsx/tinylog #logs
mucho tiempo sin usar #gemini.. gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/ es un buen foro!
it is gemini:// actually
i feel like iâve stumbled upon an alternative internet universe, gemini protocol, the small internet and a counter-cultural world!
irc.mills.io running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net OH SHIT using this for a protocol like gopher is smart! might have to try that for gemini so i donât have to keep a port open for that