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Chromium Ozone/Wayland: the last mile stretch
Lets start with some context, the project consists of implementing, shipping and maintaining native Wayland support in the Chromium project. Our team at Igalia has been leading the effort since it was first merged upstream back in 2016. For more historical context, there are a few blog posts and this amazing talk, by my colleagues Antonio Gomes and Max Ihlenfeldt, presented at last year’s Web Engines Hackfest. Especially due to the Lacros pr … ⌘ Read more

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Yesterday I was doing a lot of research on how #hyperdrive and the #holepunch project work. Would it be possible to use it to make #twtxt an easier gateway for new users? Could we stop using web servers?
My conclusion: We would end up being a #nostr. On the one hand it would become more complex to use, it would force the user to have software installed, and on the other hand the community would need a central proxy to make the routes accessible via HTTP. In other words, it’s not a good idea.
However, it’s an AMAZING technology. I want to start playing with it.

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It would appear that Google’s web crawlers are ignoring the robots.txt that I have on https://git.mills.io/robots.txt with content:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

Evidence attached (see screenshots): – I think its the the Small Web community band together and file a class action suit(s) against Microsoft.com Google.com and any other assholes out there (OpenAI?) that violate our rights and ignore requests to be ā€œpoliteā€ on the web. Thoughts? šŸ’­

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Je recherche un outil qui me permettrait d’obtenir des snapshots de page web, un peu comme le fait archive.org. J’ai le sentiment et l’envie d’archiver pour la postĆ©ritĆ©, avant la disparition inopinĆ©e de ressources de valeur. Vous auriez des conseils? script avec #curl? Truc en #auto-hĆ©bergement?

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In-reply-to » So what are some good alternatives to GitHub, that are not based in USA? I like the minimal feel of sourcehut but it seem you have to pay if you want your, not just submit patches to others repos. But they also got IRC bouncer and mailing-lists included. Codeberg also looks appealing being based in Germany.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk It depends on your requirements. If you just want to put your code somewhere for yourself, simply push it over SSH on a server and call it good. That’s what I do with lots of repos. If you want an additional web UI for read access for the public, cgit comes to mind (a mate uses that). Prologic runs Gitea, which offers heaps more functionality like merge requests.

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In-reply-to » I share a simple API template with Clean Architecture using #flask and #fastapi https://git.andros.dev/andros/api-template-with-clean-architecture #cleancode #cleanarchitecture

What is clean architecture? That’s a good question.

You think of a pattern for ordering code with good decisions isolating technologies (you can change the web framework or database without break the business logic), easy to test (you only test interfaces and use cases), sharing code between frameworks (entities and use cases), scalability, modulations and standardizing names. Clean architecture is not perfect, it has a learning curve and some abstraction in each technology. You can even find rejection with yours colleagues.
I have a good article on this topic.
https://programadorwebvalencia.com/implementando-arquitectura-limpia-en-python/
#python

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Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
Google says it has begun requiring users to turn on JavaScript, the widely used programming language to make web pages interactive, in order to use Google Search. In an email to TechCrunch, a company spokesperson claimed that the change is intended to ā€œbetter protectā€ Google Search against malicious activity, such as bots and spam, and to improve the overall Google Search experience for users. The spokesperson noted that, with … ⌘ Read more

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Google Begins Requiring JavaScript For Google Search
Google says it has begun requiring users to turn on JavaScript, the widely-used programming language to make web pages interactive, in order to use Google Search. From a report: In an email to TechCrunch, a company spokesperson claimed that the change is intended to ā€œbetter protectā€ Google Search against malicious activity, such as bots and spam, and to improve the over … ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » Any idea What's this "twtxtfeevalidator/0.0.1" UA about? I thought I could ask before throwing a 1000GB file at it 🪤 could it be the same 'xt' thing @lyse was talking about the other day?

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Thank you very much, glad you like it. :-) I always try to make web pages use as much semantic tags as possible and keep the HTML very simple, so that they also have a chance to look decent in terminal browsers. The logo took me a few hours to draw in all its three sizes.

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In-reply-to » Any idea What's this "twtxtfeevalidator/0.0.1" UA about? I thought I could ask before throwing a 1000GB file at it 🪤 could it be the same 'xt' thing @lyse was talking about the other day?

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Ta! It’s just the millenia old tabs vs. spaces debate. ;-) Here’s a screenshot, that also kinda serves as a preview of the ugly – yet functional – web interface:

Twtxt Feed Validator reporting two errors

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@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Sorry I missed your messages to #twtxt on IRC. There are people there, but it can take several hours to get a response. E.g. I check it every day or two. I recommend using an IRC bouncer. To answer your question about registries, I used a couple of registries when I first started out, to try to find feeds to follow, but haven’t since then. I don’t remember which ones, but they were easy to find with web searches.

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i recorded my first camcorder video!!!! it’s just me practicing guitar after sooo long of not playing it. my acoustic, to be specific (well, it’s an electric acoustic thing but i can play it without plugging it in lol, i do have a stratocaster though). it’s capped at ~30 minutes because i used one mini DVD for it and decided i wasn’t gonna use another one to extend the run time. so yeah. it was super fun! i hope i can share it soon, i’m ripping the disc with make MKV right now, then i’ll re-encode to a web friendly format, and upload to my site and hope that works well

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In-reply-to » tried building the yarn social app for android but wahhh android studio and flutter scare me... big ass IDEs and SDKs and shit not worth it

fair lol! i should give the web app a try, i don’t think i’ll get much use out of it from my phone anyway because i suck at typing on a phone but i might as well log in!

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In-reply-to » @prologic It's hosted at home on an computer I didn’t use anymore. It worked well for a few months, and since maybe the beginning of December, it begun to be very slow. But like I said, I have no time for that now, but if I have questions when I’ll look, I’ll think of you šŸ˜… (but I was thinking about installing a new OS before these problems, I may just do that).

@emmanuel@wald.ovh Btw I already figured out why accessing your web server is slow:

$ host wald.ovh
wald.ovh has address 86.243.228.45
wald.ovh has address 90.19.202.229

wald.ovh has 2 IPv4 addresses, one of which is dead and doesn’t respond.. That’s why accessing your website is so slow as depending on client and browser behaviors one of two things may happen 1) a random IP is chosen and ½ the time the wrong one is picked or 2) both are tried in some random order and ½ the time its slow because the broken one is picked.

If you don’t know what 86.243.228.45 is, or it’s a dead backup server or something, I’d suggest you remove this from the domain record.

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One benefit with bluesky is your username is also a website. And not a clunky URL with slashes and such. I wish twtxt adopted that. I have advocated for webfinger to for twtxt to let us do something like it with usernames. Nostr has something like it

By default the bsky.social urls all redirect to their feeds like: hmpxvt.bsky.social
Many custom urls will redirect to some kind of linktree or just their feed cwebonline.com or la.bonne.petite.sour.is or if you are a major outlet just to your web presence like https://theonion.com‬ or https://netflix.com

Its just good SEO practice

Do all nostr addresses take you to the person if typed into a browser? That is the secret sauce.
No having to go to some random page first. no accounts. no apps to install. just direct to the person.

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@prologic@twtxt.net sure! I don’t know if this is what you need but, let me give it a try.

  • I have Timeline installed, which has an endpoint to process #webmentions. Mine for example is https://aelaraji.com/timeline/webmention which you can find by querying https://aelaraji.com/.well-known/webfinger.
  • If you mention someone from #Timeline itself, it takes care of querying that and sending in the mention for you.
  • Otherwise (what I personally do) you could just:
curl -i -d 'source=https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt#:~:text=2024-12-09T01:22:37Z' -d 'target=https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt' https://aelaraji.com/timeline/webmention

basically what @sorenpeter@darch.dk mentioned in his article Here.

Afterwards, the mentions are stored in their own mentions.txt feed. The one from the example above looks like this on my Timeline :
Example Timeline (web)mention

Feel free to spam my endpoint if you’d like to give things a try. šŸ‘

[P.S: personally, I don’t seem to get the mentions if I add the Text fragment part to my target]

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In-reply-to » (#ngibdfq) yep, my point is that the txt part is redundant for twtxt

I was thinking of ā€˜tw.txt’ to avoid a double T issue… Anyway I’d say the extension and MIME type are important to know what a file (could) contain
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/MIME_types/Common_types

Reading the original spec, I understand why it should be a .txt file instead of, let’s say twtxt or anything else. In any case it could be nick.twtxt to support multiple users in the same directory.

What is curious to me was the decision at that moment of twtxt [dot] txt. You have the text part twice šŸ¤”. Like mydb.db or eapl_todo.todo. Nothing really transcendental, just thinking out loud.
https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/configuration.html

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In-reply-to » I’ve been using Mastodon too much lately. The constant notifications are becoming too stressful. I really do prefer slow communication, like twtxt. āœŒļø

@bender@twtxt.net Well, so far, I’m using the standard web client. Haven’t found a great client yet. 🫤 Mastodon/Fediverse is also very different from twtxt, there are way more images/videos that I’d like to see – a TUI client like toot wouldn’t work for me.

Dunno, maybe I’ll make some changes in this area after christmas. Try self-hosting again or something like that …

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In-reply-to » i am working on very smol deployments, where a server may use two or so replicated sqlite databases instead of a db server like postgres to seamlessly move from single to multi-node arrangements as needed. there is a clear performance limit here, but the goal is not to serve a huge number of clients. just to do as much as possible with a small number of useful components that can be upgraded to handle up to medium size workloads, without difficult data conversions or migrations. scaling beyond that point should be done via federation.

for example, ejabberd, redka, and litefs. all using sqlite+litefs for their database needs allows agents to communicate over xmpp, matrix, mqtt, and sip. other applications can use sqlite for storage or speak the redis protocol to redka. ejabberd can also handle file uploads, static file publishing, identity, and various other web application services. when scaling, litefs integrates with consul to manage replication which grants the network access to service disco, encrypted mesh networking, and various other features that can be used to build secure service grids. ejabberd and redka can be scaled to multiple nodes that coordinate over the litefs replication protocol without any changes to the db storage config. other components can be configured to plug into this framework fairly easily as well. we keep the network config fairly simple by linking nodes together with yggdrasil to flatten the address space and then linking app nodes together using consul to provide secure routing for the local grid service. yggdrasil also offers utility for buliding federated networks in a similarly flat address space, for more secure communications i2p is also available in yggdrasil mode. minibase is wonderful, and we have not even started to talk about secure IoT.

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In-reply-to » The web is such garbage these days šŸ˜” Or is it the garbage search engines? šŸ¤”

Always has been. Web spec is too hard to implement your own web browser from scratch (nothing can, even Google and Apple, they forked KHTML). So if we not count forks we have only three browsers: Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Apple Safari

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In-reply-to » Thanks @lyse! I'm replying here https://text.eapl.mx/reply-to-lyse-about-twtxt

Thank you, @eapl.me@eapl.me! No need to apologize in the introduction, all good. :-)

Section 3: I’m a bit on the fence regarding documenting the HTTP caching headers. It’s a very general HTTP thing, so there is nothing special about them for twtxt. No need for the Twtxt Specification to actually redo it. But on the other hand, a short hint could certainly help client developers and feed authors. Maybe it’s thanks to my distro’s Ngninx maintainer, but I did not configure anything for the Last-Modified and ETag headers to be included in the response, the web server just already did it automatically.

The more that I think about it while typing this reply, the more I think your recommendation suggestion is actually really great. It will definitely beneficial for client developers. In almost all client implementation cases I’d say one has to actually do something specifically in the code to send the If-Modified-Since and/or If-None-Match request headers. There is no magic that will do it automatically, as one has to combine data from the last response with the new request.

But I also came across feeds that serve zero response headers that make caching possible at all. So, an explicit recommendation enables feed authors to check their server setups. Yeah, let’s absolutely do this! :-)

Regarding section 4 about feed discovery: Yeah, non-HTTP transport protocols are an issue as they do not have User-Agent headers. How exactly do you envision the discovery_url to work, though? I wouldn’t limit the transports to HTTP(S) in the Twtxt Specification, though. It’s up to the client to decide which protocols it wants to support.

Since I currently rely on buckket’s twtxt client to fetch the feeds, I can only follow http(s):// (and file://) feeds. But in tt2 I will certainly add some gopher:// and gemini:// at some point in time.

Some time ago, @movq@www.uninformativ.de found out that some Gopher/Gemini users prefer to just get an e-mail from people following them: https://twtxt.net/twt/dikni6q So, it might not even be something to be solved as there is no problem in the first place.

Section 5 on protocol support: You’re right, announcing the different transports in the url metadata would certainly help. :-)

Section 7 on emojis: Your idea of TUI/CLI avatars is really intriguing I have to say. Maybe I will pick this up in tt2 some day. :-)

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This morning (and a little bit of the afternoon) the idea of having a full referenced archive of twtxts on the web has consumed me a bit. I am talking about something similar to the email archives one see online, but for twtxts, and a more personal level. Such archive would be available, even if the involved feeds are long gone, because feeds will be treated as received emails.

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making my own browser framework that can use something like librewolf as a web renderer and other graphical components and runtimes for other protocols. though I think that means that i’ll be retiring tomo-el-fuego in favor of a different runtime architecture. there’s a lot that I like about inferno, but modernizing it enough to actually use anywhere is another story. I doubt this is the end of my infernal experiments, but I can only do so much at a time innit.

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In-reply-to » Hey, @ I know. Just wondering the kind of apps or software and how you all stay up to date in conversations. Is it through webmentions?

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl you replied to me, but the reply was just an @, nothing else (the whole handle was missing).

There are no web mentions here, and no notifications. It isn’t Mastodon; if you want to see if someone wrote something new, or replied to you, you need to open your client.

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In-reply-to » So I am really curious, now that I am building upon @sorenpeter's Timeline app, how other users write/add their twtxt, and how you follow conversations. Comment svp!

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I use Jenny to add to a local copy of my twtxt.txt file, and then manually push it to my web servers. I prefer timestamps to end with ā€œZā€ rather than ā€œ+00:00ā€ so I modified Jenny to use that format. I mostly follow conversations using Jenny, but sometimes I check twtxt.net, which could catch twts I missed.

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There’s this rumor that you can create a WhatsApp account with a burner phone, then link the phone to a browser on your desktop PC (web.whatsapp.com) and never have to use the phone again. This just doesn’t work. Every ~2 weeks, the session in the browser will time out and you have to re-link again. šŸ™„

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In-reply-to » @prologic would you please check my web interface? is that a normal thing or am I missing something?

Web interface is deleted in https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim/commit/376de2702319686c902ec03b8ca1e17b020fc639 but seems incorrectly (in source i see git lfs metadata). Can be builded if you grab https://git.mills.io/saltyim/saltyim/src/commit/15a64de82829/internal/web/app.wasm and place it in source (go directory has cached source) and rebuild

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