@movq@www.uninformativ.de ✅

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Commercial forest, I guess? (Are there any other forests?)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I had that as my avatar/userprofile pic at work for a few years. 😆

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Luckily, yeah. Happens every now and then. It’s usually not even worth reporting, they often fix it in 30-90 minutes anyway.

(Is this how we do “reactions” here on twtxt? 🤪)

@xuu@txt.sour.is @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 💚

@xuu@txt.sour.is Yeah, it will be delayed. Oh well. That’s just the way it is. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, that filename! :-D 100 times better than I could ever play.

@xuu@txt.sour.is If the unread counter becomes negative, wouldn’t that mean I have that many more read messages? :-D

@bender@twtxt.net You’re spot on, it’s important to not introduce classical bugs!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh dear. :-( Have they fixed it?

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de I had a t-shirt with this one or the other decade ago. :-)

@prologic@twtxt.net 🍴💣

@eapl.me@eapl.me this “directory” is actually named registry. You can see users at https://registry.twtxt.org/api/plain/users and his twts at https://registry.twtxt.org/api/plain/tweets

Twtxt was made for nerds, by nerds.
I’d like to change that. It’s by nerds/hackers, for nerds/hackers and friends of these. It doesn’t have to be hacky all the time, as you don’t need to be a nerd to have a blog.
But, for that to happen, someone has to build the tools to improve UX.

by design there really is no way to easily discovers others
Yeah, I agree, and although there are directories of email addresses, usually you don’t want that, unless you are a ‘public figure’.
I couldn’t say that a microblogging is a “social network” by default, as a blog is not either. At the same time, people would expect to find new people and conversations, as you’d do in a forum.

I think of two features on top of the current spec:

• Clients showing a few posts of what your following are watching but you don’t, so perhaps you find something interesting to follow next. Or that feature of “Your ‘followings’ are following these accounts/people”. (Hard to explain in english, but I hope you get the idea)
  
• Sharing your .txt into some directory, saying “Hey, I have this twtxt URL, I want to be discovered”. I’m thinking of something like the Federated tab on Mastodon.

Hmm so looking at the swagger of the registry spec client it seems to just take a “page”.. That seems worse than doing an offset. Lol.

https://github.com/DracoBlue/twtxt-registry/blob/master/src/swagger.json

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@bender@twtxt.net thinked about Gemini protocol. Why corporations shit this name with cryptocurrency and LLMs?

@xuu@txt.sour.is like feeds+bridgy.fed? Will be happy anyway

@bender@twtxt.net I taught the whole ecosystem 😁
@prologic@twtxt.net @eapl.me@eapl.me The question I was asked the most was: How do I discover people?
Someone came up with a fantastic idea, instead of adding the new twt at the end of the feed, do it at the beginning. So you can paginate by cutting the request every few lines.

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt haha its not coming back. he talked of a stand alone thing like feeds. but not in yarnd

hmm @prologic@twtxt.net how did replying to lyse double up here?

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de That’s not very retrocomputing!

@bender@twtxt.net 🙈🙈🙈

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I remember WebKit having a similar list, but I can’t find it right now … 🙈

@prologic@twtxt.net In all seriousness: Don’t worry, I’m not going to host some Fediverse thingy at the moment, probably never will. 😅

But I do use it quite a lot. Although, I don’t really use it as a social network (as in: following people). I follow some tags like #retrocomputing, which fills my timeline with interesting content. If there was a traditional web forum or mailing list or even a usenet group that covered this topic, I’d use that instead. But that’s all (mostly) dead by now. ☹️

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I see, fair point, yeah.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yikes! I didn’t know about about:compat. Crazy!

@xuu@txt.sour.is Wow, that’s a giant graveyard. In my new database I have 16,428 messages as of now. Archive feed support is not yet available, so it’s just the sum of all the 36 main feeds.

@david@collantes.us Ah shit, sorry, you’re right! :-D

Thank you @python_valencia@twtxt.python-valencia.es for letting me show you the secrets of a decentralised plain text social network like twtxt.
I hope you enjoyed the talk! ❤️🐍

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I want to present the twtxt feed from Python Valencia: https://twtxt.python-valencia.es/
Technical curiosity: It is generated using n8n, using the official rss.
#welcome

@bender@twtxt.net That … was better than expected. 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net Gemini has an answer for you:

This is a conversation thread from a twtxt network, detailing a user’s (movq) frustration with the Mastodon “export data” feature and their consideration of self-hosting a fediverse alternative. Here’s a summary:

• movq’s initial issue:
  
  • movq is concerned about the volatility of their data on their current Mastodon instance due to a broken “export data” feature.
    
  • They contacted the admins, but the issue remains unresolved.
    
  • This led them to contemplate self-hosting.
    
• Alternative fediverse software suggestions:
  
  • kat suggests gotosocial as a lightweight alternative to Mastodon.
    
  • movq agrees, and also mentions snac as a potential option.
    
• movq’s change of heart:
  
  • movq ultimately decides that self-hosting any fediverse software, besides twtxt, is too much effort.
    
• Resolution and compromise:
  
  • The Mastodon admins attribute the export failure to the size of movq’s account.
    
  • movq decides to set their Mastodon account to auto-delete posts after approximately 180 days to manage data size.
    
  • Movq also mentions that they use auto-expiring links on twtxt to reduce data storage.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de 600MiB is nothing. That instance must be running on a reduced power machine and, perhaps, has too many users. Have you considered starting afresh? That’s what I have done (when it comes to the Fediverse), four times! :-D

The Mastodon admins say that it’s probably because of the size of my account (~600 MB), so the export process times out. And I understand that. Here on twtxt, I always use auto-expiring links when I post images or videos. It just gets too much data otherwise. I think I’ll just set my Mastodon account to auto-delete posts after ~180 days or something like that. Nobody cares about old posts anyway.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org for a brief moment I was confused, and puzzled, on how were you able to count read statuses, and messages on cache, with such high precision. Then I remembered you are using German numerical notation. LOL.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @bender@twtxt.net It already is a tiling window manager, but some windows can’t be tiled in a meaningful way. I admit that I’m mostly thinking about QEMU or Wine here: They run at a fixed size and can’t be tiled, but I still want to put them in “full screen” mode (i.e., hide anything else).

@movq@www.uninformativ.de let’s host yarnd! Or maybe wait until @prologic@twtxt.net return activitypub support which deleted in this commit

Thanks, @movq@www.uninformativ.de!

My backing SQLite database with indices is 8.7 MiB in size right now.

The twtxt cache is 7.6 MiB, it uses Python’s pickle module. And next to it there is a 16.0 MiB second database with all the read statuses for the old tt. Wow, super inefficient, it shouldn’t contain anything else, it’s a giant, pickled {"$hash": {"read": True/False}, …}. What the heck, why is it so big?! O_o

@movq@www.uninformativ.de You could also just use a tiling window manager. :-) As a bonus, it doesn’t waste dead space, the window utilizes the entire screen. To also get rid of panels and stuff, put the window in fullscreen mode.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I have just opened the GIMP bug tracker (hosted at gitlab.gnome.org) and, I kid you not, they have deployed Anubis in front of it:

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Oof.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I’m glad to hear that! Yay for more clients. 😊

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Interesting, thanks for that list. 🤔

@david@collantes.us @prologic@twtxt.net Sorry! https://cascii.app/

… yeah, okay, I don’t think I’ll do that. 😅 Anything but twtxt is just too much effort.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev, which one? Did you forget the link, or are you referring to a twtxt I can’t see?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Bad boy! 😂 Remember, it is an extension

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, most of the graphical applications are actually KDE programs:

• KMail – e-mail client
  
• Okular – PDF viewer
  
• Gwenview – image viewer
  
• Dolphin – file browser
  
• KWallet – password manager (I want to check out pass one day. The most annoying thing is that when I copy a password, it says that the password has been modified and asks me whether I want to save the changes. I never do, because the password is still the same. I don’t get it.)
  
• KPatience – card game
  
• Kdenlive – video editor
  
• Kleopatra – certificate manager
  

Qt:

• VLC – video player
  
• Psi – Jabber client (I happily used Kopete in the past, but that is not supported anymore or so. I don’t remember.)
  
• sqlitebrowser – SQLite browser
  

Gtk:

• Firefox – web browser
  
• Quod Libet – music player (I should look for a better alternative. Can’t remember why I had to move away from Amarok, was it dead? There was a fork Clementine or so, but I had to drop that for some unknown reason, too.)
  
• Audacity – audio editor
  
• GIMP – image editor
  

These are the things that are open right now or that I could think of. Most other stuff I actually do in the terminal.

In the past™, I used the Python KDE4 bindings. That was really nice. I could pass most stuff directly in the constructor and didn’t have to call gazillions of setters improving the experience significantly. If I ever wanted to do GUI programming again, I’d definitely go that route. There are also great Qt bindings for Python if one wanted to avoid the KDE stuff on top. The vast majority I do for myself, though, is either CLI or maybe TUI. A few web shit things, but no GUIs anymore. :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

Although, most software I use is decentish in that regard.

Is that because you mostly use Qt programs? 🤔

I wish Qt had a C API. Programming in C++ is pain. 😢