@movq@www.uninformativ.de I noticed that:
gopher://uninformativ.de/0/phlog/2018/2018-06/2018-06-01.txt
Is the first non-justified, and it is when you started using Markdown. The last justified one was:
gopher://uninformativ.de/0/phlog/2018/2018-05/2018-05-27.txt
So, I might have found the mystery! :-D
Haha, fun! I browsed your gopher hole a little bit. I noticed some entries are fully justified (formatting), while others are not. I didnāt notice a pattern, though it makes sense not to use justification on entries with code. Yet, some prose entries are, and some are not. A mystery. :-)
@klaxzy@klaxzy.net Iāve had many SD cards die in Raspberry Pis. Really annoying. Iāve eventually switched to using a read-only rootfs. š«¤
Now thatās interesting. Some of these bots start crawling at URLs like this:
That is obviously completely wrong. But I can explain it. Some years ago, I screwed up my nginx rewrite rules, and thatās how these broken URLs came to be.
It all redirects to /git now, which is why that endpoint sees so much traffic lately.
But what does that mean? Why do they start there? I can only speculate that this company bought an old database of web links and they use that to start crawling. And it was probably a cheap one, because these redirects have been fixed for quite a long time now.
@prologic@twtxt.net Iām doing that now as well, but I donāt think this is a good solution. This is going to hurt āself-hostingā in the long run: I cannot afford true self-hosting where I actually do host everything here at home ā instead, I must use a cloud provider / VPS for that. It is only a matter of time until my provider starts doing AI shit as well (or rather, the customers do it) and then what? I get blocked, e.g. I canāt send email to (some) people anymore. This is already bad and itās going to get worse.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, that was a lot of fun. š Now letās wait and see if I ever get to actually use this. š
@thecanine@twtxt.net We donāt use Microsoft at work ā but similar products of other big companies. Theyāre all doing the same. The core product gets worse and worse, because they focus so much on vomiting āAIā over everything.
It will die down eventually. I hope.
@thecanine@twtxt.net I hate it when businesses do this. As well as being annoying and unreliable, Microsoft software is known to have a hell of a lot of security vulnerabilities, and the AI features increase the attack surface. One can use a client like Thunderbird for the email, but Teams doesnāt really have an alternative. Awful stuff.
We use all the Microsoft programs at work - Teams and Outlook especially.
After all kinds of technical problems with Teams, that sometimes go unresolved for over a year, Microsoft shifted their priorities away from fixing things and towards adding an annoying AI Copilot button, that just takes up space and all it does, is loads the website in Teams, so I disabled it. Soon they just add it back, but in a different row of icons, therefore itās now a different button, you have to disable (I think they added yet another one, to the Teams, on my work phone and I had to disabled that too). Not too long after, the desktop one just enabled itself, because of āan errorā and I can disable it, but doing so activates a popup, that begs you to turn it back on, every once in a while. You canāt disable the popup and can only click āYesā or āNot nowā on it. I still keep it disabled, out of principle, but yesterday I noticed yet another Copilot button, this time in the top right corner of my Outlook and this one cannot be disabled, on the business version of Outlook and even on the personal one, itās only possible to do it through hidden privacy settings, by prohibiting the program from connecting to Microsoft servers, for extra āfeaturesā.
Thereās people complaining about it online, so itās clear nobody really wants it, but at this point Microsofts position is that you will have at least one useless AI button on your screen, at any given time, and you will be happy. And yes, their AI sucks and if I absolutely have to use AI for something, thereās already 2 better options, we have access to, at work.
Enjoy! This is a longer weekend for us too (Labor Day), and even longer for me, as I have asked for Tuesday off. Yayyyyy! I will not be drinking (I voluntarily stopped drinking anything with alcohol in it), but I will try to get a few things done, and then relax.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, weāve seen how this plays out in practice 𤣠@dce@hashnix.club My advice, do what @movq@www.uninformativ.de has hinted at and donāt change the 1st # url = field in your feed. Iām not sure if you had already, but the first url field is kind of important in your feed as it is used as the āHashing URIā for threading.
@dce@hashnix.club Ah, oh, well then. š„“
My client supports that, if you set multiple url = fields in your feedās metadata (the top-most one must be the āmainā URL, that one is used for hashing).
But yeah, multi-protocol feeds can be problematic and some have considered it a mistake to support them. š¤
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Why the fuck do they think people need thatā½ Most people donāt even use regular tab groups, and now they want to shoehorn an ML model in there as wellā½
Iāve got a prototype of my hardcopy simulator going. Iām typing on the keyboard and the ādisplayā goes to the printer:
https://movq.de/v/56feb53912/s.png
https://movq.de/v/235c1eabac/MVI_8810.MOV.mp4
The biiiiiiiiiig problem is that the print head and plastic cover make it impossible to see whatās currently being printed, because this is not a typewriter. This means: In order to see what I just entered, I have to feed the paper back and forth and back and forth ⦠itās not ideal.
I got that idea of moving back/forth from Drew DeVault, who ā as it turned out ā did something similar a few years back. (I tried hard to read as little as possible of his blog post, because figuring things out myself is more fun. But that could mean I missed a great idea here or there.)
But hey, at least this is running on my Pentium 133 on SuSE Linux 6.4, printer connected with a parallel cable. š
(Also, yes, you can see the printouts of earlier tests and, yes, I used ed(1) wrong at one point. 𤪠And ls insisted on using colors ā¦)
@prologic@twtxt.net @moveq@twtxt.net I think itās mostly the serious lack of competition. All the Android phone manufacturers just use the Google version of Android, bundle in piles of Google bloatware and do whatever Google tells them to. If some of them installed Lineage, or any other versions, with their own stores and rules, or even just offer a less Googly version of their phones, as an option, for more experienced users, Google wouldnāt be able, to push everyone around.
@dce@hashnix.club I donāt use Gemini, but I follow you on the good, old, HTTP(S)! :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @prologic@twtxt.net this is extremely concerning and I hope there is enough push back to stop this! The ability to modify apps, is one of the two biggest reasons, Iām still using Android. If they remove that option, Iāll be forced to switch to one of the de-Googled forks.
That might not be a good solution either, because I need banking and identity verification apps on my main device and already had to get a second device for work, which has tighter sideloading restrictions and I would very much not like to be forced into using three Android phones simultaneously, to do what should be possible, with just one.
Apparently twtxt wasnāt the right client to use. twet seems to be alright, though.
@prologic@twtxt.net Anything above a couple hundred Euros. š The current Epson LX-350 appears to be not that pricey, though. š¤
I mean, what do you want to do with it? If you want to use this as an actual printer for daily use, Iād get a laser printer instead, because theyāre very reliable and the print quality is top notch.
I got my dot matrix printer mostly for experiments and nostalgia, so I wouldnāt want to pay something like 300-400⬠for it.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, those POS thingies are similar. Thereās āESC/POSā as a variant of āESC/Pā, if Iām not mistaken.
All I can say is, when I go to big stores like Amazon, then I have trouble finding ātraditionalā dot matrix printers for use at home. š Epson still sells them, but theyāre more expensive than my laser printer was. So yeah, they still exist, just expensive, by the looks of it.
@prologic@twtxt.net Hmm, good question. I havenāt checked the market, I got mine from someone I know. But to be honest, Iād suspect that buying a used one is actually your best shot, because there is virtually no market for these devices anymore, meaning new ones are very, very expensive. š«¤
FWIW, I have an OKI Microline 3390eco. Good thing is, you can still buy new cartridges for it.
If you want to buy a new device, check if it supports the āESC/Pā standard. Thatās very widely supported.
This is why I love tech from that era.
Write bytes to a parallel port and stuff happens. If itās just ASCII bytes, then it will print ASCII text. Even the simplest programs can use a printer this way.
With a little bit of ESC/P, you can print images and other fancy stuff. Thatās what I did this morning ā never worked with ESC/P before, now I can print images. Itās not that hard.
Hayes-compatible modems are similar: Write some AT commands to the serial port and the modem does things. This isnāt even arcane knowledge, itās explained in the printed manual.
Maybe Iām wearing rose-tinted glasses here, but I think with all this old stuff, you get useful results very quickly and the manuals are usually actually helpful. Itās so much easier to get started and to use this hardware to the full extent. Much less complexity than what we have today, not a ton of libraries and dependencies and SDKs and cloud services and what not.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org When/if I can pull it off, there will be videos! š
I never used hardcopy terminals, either. We did have a dotmatrix printer, but that was just used as a regular printer.
Inkjets, I donāt know. They were pretty fascinating and cool when they came out. A lot faster than dotmatrix and obviously quiter. They never gave me much trouble, actually. But I switched to a laser printer long before crap like DRMāed ink cartridges became a thing.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Heck yeah, have fun! :-) We never had a matrix printer, started off with a cathode ray tube and an inkjet pisser.
Iām happy to see you compose your first twtxt message using ed on your new output device. We definitely need video proof of that! ;-)
Sooooooooo, things happened, and I now have a dot matrix printer again. šš
(One of the end goals is to simulate a hardcopy terminal on my old box. Iām waiting for another cable to arrive, I donāt have USB there. And then use ed(1) like it was meant to be used! š
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The GPG signatures of my software tarballs have been wrong for years (because Iāve been using rsync wrong, funny enough, it wasnāt a GPG issue) and nobody ever noticed. (They still are wrong at the moment, because I havenāt pushed the fix, yet.)
This confirms that this is just a total waste of time. Nobody ever checks this. Maybe this matters if youāre a distro, but why even bother as a single person ā¦
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Ucycling just rocks to hard!
@bender@twtxt.net Hahaha, I bet you could use it for a myriad of things! :-D
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ooooh! I wish I had that mallet here at work today. So many uses come to mind! š
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org thatās so cool! I had to do some research, as I thought all pallets were made using cheap pine wood (which is quite soft), but, boy, as I erring big time! Oak it is also used, which is hardwood, and quite durable.
/29 IPv4 subnet with my ISP used to power my ingress. No longer.
I use Headscale. Love it!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh yeah, once in the quarter to the office is absolutely amazing and luxurious. Thank you teammates and employer! Though, I would already have been on site when these things happened earlier.
Today is my last day of holiday. Back to work again tomorrow. Not looking forward, vacation is just great. So easy to get used to.
Today I finally got rid of my /29 IPv4 subnet with my ISP used to power my ingress. No longer.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de having to go to a gopher proxy to see a text document better served on readily available web servers⦠š¤, but I digress. Verbatim text:
What's Missing from "Retro"
~softwarepagan
------------------------------------------------------------------
You know, often, when I say I miss older ways of computing or
connecting online, people tell me "there's nothing stopping you
from doing that now!" and they are technicay correct in most cases
(though I can't, for example, chat with friends on MSN ever
again...) However, let me explain that while this type of thing can
*sort of* fill that hole in my heart, it isn't *the same.*
Say, for example, I wanted to connect with others over a BBS. This
wouldn't offer the same types of connections it used to. While
there are BBSes around with active users, they're no longer there
to discuss movies, Star Trek, D&D, games, etc. They're there to
discuss *BBSes.* The same can be said for Gopher, old-school forums
and all sorts of revival projects (such as Escargot, Spacehey,
etc.) Retrocomputing enthusiasts, while they have a variety of
interests, are often in these spaces to discuss the medium itself
and not other topics. This exists at a stark contrast from how
things were in the past, where a non-tech-inclined person may learn
the tech to connect with likeminded others (as I did as a
Zelda-obsessed kid.)
The same can be said of old media. People will say "well, nobody is
stopping you from watching old shows/movies now!" Again, they are
technically correct. I can go home right now and watch *Star Trek:
The Next Generation* to my heart's content. It will never again,
however, be current, or new. When something is new, it serves as a
shared cultural experience. Remember how "Game of Thrones* felt in
the mid-to-late 2010s? Yeah, that.
It's sad. I sustain myself on a mixed diet of old things, new
things, and new things intended for old millenials like me who like
old things. It can be bittersweet.
We did an experiment at work today: Do I even need to lock my laptop when Iām gone or is nobody able to use it anyway?
It went as expected. š¤£
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz If youāre willing to ignore that itās proprietary software, then Windows used to be pretty good. Like, 25 years ago. After Windows 2000 (or maybe XP) it went downhill fast. Kind of makes me sad, actually. š
apt manpage of Ubuntu recently, which, for some reason, uses blue text in one place:
Ah, so apparently they donāt like writing manpages anymore and instead use XML:
https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/blob/main/doc/apt.8.xml
And then they use XSLT on top and what not:
https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/blob/main/doc/manpage-style.xsl.cmake.in
Itās not even explicitly blue:
https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/blob/main/doc/apt.ent?ref_type=heads#L17
Abstractions upon abstractions upon abstractions.
You can explicitly use colors in manpages. I saw this in the apt manpage of Ubuntu recently, which, for some reason, uses blue text in one place:
https://movq.de/v/de5ab72016/s.png
Makes little sense to me. Iām glad that most manpages donāt do this. I wouldnāt want unicorn vomit all over the place.
Using colors can be done using the low level commands \m and \M:
.TH foo_program 3
\m[blue]I'm blue\m[], da ba dee.
\m[red]\M[yellow]I'm red on yellow.\m[]\M[]
This is quite horrible.
Distrobox is pretty handy and kind of amazed I havenāt played with it before now. I wanted to quickly try out Protonās Authenticator they just released, but they only had binaries for Ubuntu and Fedora (naturally), but Iām on Void Linux on this laptop.
Installed the latest basic Fedora image with Distrobox, used dnf to install the downloaded rpm file within it, and presto, running the app within Void like Iād just downloaded it though the normal repos.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz On the one hand, all these programs have a very long history and the technology behind manpages is actually very powerful ā you can use it to write books:
https://www.troff.org/pubs.html
I have two books from that list, for example āThe UNIX programming environmentā:
https://movq.de/v/c3dab75c97/upe.jpg
Itās a bit older, of course, but it looks and feels like a normal book, and it uses the same tech as manpages ā which I think is really cool. š
Itās comparable to LaTeX (just harder/different to use) but much faster than LaTeX. You can also do stuff like render manpages as a PDF (man -Tpdf cp >cp.pdf) or as an HTML file (man -Thtml cp >cp.html). I think I once made slides for a talk this way.
On the other hand, traditional manpages (i.e., ones that are not written in mandoc) do not use semantic markup. They literally say, āthis text is bold, that text over here is italicsā, and so on.
So when you run man foo, it has no other choice but to show it in black, white, bold, underline ā showing it in color would be wrong, because thatās not what the source code of that manpage says.
Colorizing them is a hack, to be honest. Youāre not meant to do this. (The devs actually broke this by accident recently. They themselves arenāt really aware that people use colors.)
If mandoc and semantic markup was more commonly used, I think it would be easier to convince the devs to add proper customizable colors.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Hereās the full config I use.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Colorized manpages have been a thing for a very long time:
https://movq.de/v/81219d7f7a/s.png
Problem is, hardly anybody knows this, because you configure this by ⦠drumroll ⦠overwriting TERMCAP entries of less in your ~/.bashrc:
export LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\e[38;5;3m' # Bold⨠export LESS_TERMCAP_me=$'\e[0m' # End Bold
export LESS_TERMCAP_us=$'\e[4;38;5;6m' # Underline⨠export LESS_TERMCAP_ue=$'\e[0m' # End Underline
export GROFF_NO_SGR=1 # Needed since groff 1.23

Since Fastly acquired and recently shut down glitch.com, some of my ancient webapps are no longer available, nor do I have any plans to make them available again - all had either zero, or very few monthly visits, used outdated libraries and would be a waste of money, to continue hosting and updating elsewhere.
All art archives remain unaffected and all projects shut down before 2025, were already permanently deleted, but if thereās someone out there, still relying on the recently discontinued projects, somehow - you can reach out and request their source code.
These requests will only be honoured, until the end of this year, when we plan to permanently delete, all of this data (both webapps and files only hosted on Amazons CDN).
Canine out °_°
@prologic@twtxt.net Iād expect a custom build like that to cost at least 50ā000⬠here in Europe. Used campers with 100ā000 - 200ā000 km already on their clock are 20-40kā¬, apparently. š
@prologic@twtxt.net Cool! What program do you use to draw this up?
Stuff that nobody needs:
systemctl uses ANSI escape codes to underline text (\e[4m) and then it also uses special escape codes ā that Wikipedia classifies as ānot in the standardā, but I havenāt looked it up ā to change the color of the underline. That color change is barely noticeable in the first place.
Some terminals donāt support this and now my systemctl output is blinking because of that.
guys i use VPS systems from time to time and they scare me. wdym they have every port open by default and the firewall is your responsibility. what the fuck bro
Global update: Trump in Scotland says EU trade deal has 50-50 chance as tariff row grows. Gaza sees 9 more starvation deaths (122 total); UN says famine is deliberate. Thai-Cambodia clashes kill 16, displace 135k. US raid in Syria kills top ISIS leader & sons.
You know youāre getting old when thereās quite a few scripts in your ~/bin that you use daily, but you havenāt edited them once in well over 10 years ā¦
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, huh, maybe it was just my GNOME 2 themes back then that didnāt show the icon. š¤
I like the looks of your window manager. Thatās using Wayland, right?
Oh, no. Itās still X11. All my recent Wayland comments resulted from me trying to switch, but I think itās still too early. Being unable to use QEMU (because it canāt capture the mouse pointer) is a pretty big blocker for me. This is completely broken, it just happens to be unnoticeable with modern guest OSes, so itās probably not a priority for devs.
(Not to mention that I would have to fork and substantially extend dwl in order to āreplicateā my X11 WM. And then, after having done that, Iād have to follow upstream Wayland development, for which I donāt have the resources. Things would need to slow down before I can do that.)
all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1
Heh. Iāve been using tiling WMs for ~15 years now, so itās actually kind of refreshing to see something different for a change. š
Probably close to the older Windowses.
That particular theme is a ripoff of OS/2 Warp 3: https://movq.de/v/6c2a948882/s.png š
We ran some similar brownish color scheme (donāt recall its name) on Win95 or Win98
Oh god. Yeah, I wasnāt a fan of those, either. š„“
@movq@www.uninformativ.de According to this screenshot, KDE still shows good old application icons: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/KDE_Plasma_5.21_Breeze_Twilight_screenshot.png
And GNOME used to have them, too: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Gnome-2-22_%284%29.png
I like the looks of your window manager. Thatās using Wayland, right? The only thing on this screenshot to critique is all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1 At least the file browser. 8-)
This drives me nuts when my workmates share their screens. I really donāt get it how people can work like that. You canāt even read the whole line in the IDE or log viewer with all the expanded side bars. And then thereās 200 pixels on the left and another 300 pixels on the right where the desktop wallpaper shows. Gnaa! Thereās the other extreme end when somebody shares their ultra wide screen and I just have a āregularishā 16:10 monitor and donāt see shit, because itās resized way too tiny to fit my width. Good times. :-D
Sorry for going off on a tangent here. :-) Back to your WM: It has the right mix of being subtle and still similar to motif. Probably close to the older Windowses. My memory doesnāt serve me well, but I think they actually got it fairly good in my opinion. Your purple active window title looks killer. It just fits so well. This brown one (https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2025-07-22/0/leafpads.png) gives me also classic vibes. Awww. We ran some similar brownish color scheme (donāt recall its name) on Win95 or Win98 for some time on the family computer. I remember other people visting us not liking these colors. :-D