@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org LOL 😂

@bender@twtxt.net LOL 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net honestly, I though it was a nail at first. Like this, but bent. LOL.

LOL 😂 I think mastodon.social is broken 😞

LOL it works 🤣

WOW LOL

fetch https://weaknotes.com/users/david: status 500 Internal Server Error

First real test failed trying to lookup / follow @david@weaknotes.com

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org LOL, that one was too good to pass, right? I am glad you are enjoying my little notes in a bottle!

Lol, YouTube supports increasing the playback speed, but when you want to go to 4x, they want you to pay extra:

https://movq.de/v/a1c79485fb/s.png

@prologic@twtxt.net Let’s go through it one by one. Here’s a wall of text that took me over 1.5 hours to write.

This section says AI should not be treated as an authority. This is actually just what I said, except the AI phrased/framed it like it was a counter-argument.

The AI also said that users must develop “AI literacy”, again phrasing/framing it like a counter-argument. Well, that is also just what I said. I said you should treat AI output like a random blog and you should verify the sources, yadda yadda. That is “AI literacy”, isn’t it?

My text went one step further, though: I said that when you take this requirement of “AI literacy” into account, you basically end up with a fancy search engine, with extra overhead that costs time. The AI missed/ignored this in its reply.

Okay, so, the AI also said that you should use AI tools just for drafting and brainstorming. Granted, a very rough draft of something will probably be doable. But then you have to diligently verify every little detail of this draft – okay, fine, a draft is a draft, it’s fine if it contains errors. The thing is, though, that you really must do this verification. And I claim that many people will not do it, because AI outputs look sooooo convincing, they don’t feel like a draft that needs editing.

Can you, as an expert, still use an AI draft as a basis/foundation? Yeah, probably. But here’s the kicker: You did not create that draft. You were not involved in the “thought process” behind it. When you, a human being, make a draft, you often think something like: “Okay, I want to draw a picture of a landscape and there’s going to be a little house, but for now, I’ll just put in a rough sketch of the house and add the details later.” You are aware of what you left out. When the AI did the draft, you are not aware of what’s missing – even more so when every AI output already looks like a final product. For me, personally, this makes it much harder and slower to verify such a draft, and I mentioned this in my text.

You, @prologic@twtxt.net, also mentioned this in your car tyre example.

In my text, I gave two analogies: The gym analogy and the Google Translate analogy. Your car tyre example falls in the same category, but Gemini’s calculator example is different (and, again, gaslight-y, see below).

What I meant in my text: A person wants to be a programmer. To me, a programmer is a person who writes code, understands code, maintains code, writes documentation, and so on. In your example, a person who changes a car tyre would be a mechanic. Now, if you use AI to write the code and documentation for you, are you still a programmer? If you have no understanding of said code, are you a programmer? A person who does not know how to change a car tyre, is that still a mechanic?

No, you’re something else. You should not be hired as a programmer or a mechanic.

Yes, that is “skill evolution” – which is pretty much my point! But the AI framed it like a counter-argument. It didn’t understand my text.

(But what if that’s our future? What if all programming will look like that in some years? I claim: It’s not possible. If you don’t know how to program, then you don’t know how to read/understand code written by an AI. You are something else, but you’re not a programmer. It might be valid to be something else – but that wasn’t my point, my point was that you’re not a bloody programmer.)

Gemini’s calculator example is garbage, I think. Crunching numbers and doing mathematics (i.e., “complex problem-solving”) are two different things. Just because you now have a calculator, doesn’t mean it’ll free you up to do mathematical proofs or whatever.

What would have worked is this: Let’s say you’re an accountant and you sum up spendings. Without a calculator, this takes a lot of time and is error prone. But when you have one, you can work faster. But once again, there’s a little gaslight-y detail: A calculator is correct. Yes, it could have “bugs” (hello Intel FDIV), but its design actually properly calculates numbers. AI, on the other hand, does not understand a thing (our current AI, that is), it’s just a statistical model. So, this modified example (“accountant with a calculator”) would actually have to be phrased like this: Suppose there’s an accountant and you give her a magic box that spits out the correct result in, what, I don’t know, 70-90% of the time. The accountant couldn’t rely on this box now, could she? She’d either have to double-check everything or accept possibly wrong results. And that is how I feel like when I work with AI tools.

Gemini has no idea that its calculator example doesn’t make sense. It just spits out some generic “argument” that it picked up on some website.

The AI makes two points here. The first one, I might actually agree with (“bad bot behavior is not the fault of AI itself”).

The second point is, once again, gaslighting, because it is phrased/framed like a counter-argument. It implies that I said something which I didn’t. Like the AI, I said that you would have to adjust the copyright law! At the same time, the AI answer didn’t even question whether it’s okay to break the current law or not. It just said “lol yeah, change the laws”. (I wonder in what way the laws would have to be changed in the AI’s “opinion”, because some of these changes could kill some business opportunities – or the laws would have to have special AI clauses that only benefit the AI techbros. But I digress, that wasn’t part of Gemini’s answer.)

Except for one point, I don’t accept any of Gemini’s “criticism”. It didn’t pick up on lots of details, ignored arguments, and I can just instinctively tell that this thing does not understand anything it wrote (which is correct, it’s just a statistical model).

And it framed everything like a counter-argument, while actually repeating what I said. That’s gaslighting: When Alice says “the sky is blue” and Bob replies with “why do you say the sky is purple?!”

But it sure looks convincing, doesn’t it?

This took so much of my time. I won’t do this again. 😂

@bender@twtxt.net LOL sure lets trade!!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL.

My elders complained when rotary phones lost their wheel, getting replaced by push buttons. It was mayhem! We don’t live in a Matrix, we live in a loop. LOL.

@prologic@twtxt.net lol well it can be a good thing to be old! means you are wiser…

@kiwu@twtxt.net hey, not random! How dare you! (with Greta accent, and emphasis). LOL. Old man here doing, well, like old man do. Wait until you are old, and that will give you a better idea. :-P

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org now that I could finally read you RSVP message (or, should I say, essay, LOL), I had to see the video, and well, https://netbros.com/1761846417/. Hahahahaha!

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com yeah, it looks tedious because it is. LOL. I can twt no matter where I am because a) with Yarn is as easy as opening a web browser, and b) with jenny is as easy at SSHing to my VPS. But, the keyword is fun. That’s what matters!

@bender@twtxt.net LOL 😂 Timezonea are hard 😆

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org maybe @prologic@twtxt.net managed to mess things up—we should be used to this already, right? LOL—as the meets are always on Saturdays, as early as 06:00 EDT, or whereabouts, never on a Sunday.

You want me to submit a reply with “I probably won’t show up”?

I LOLed IRL! 🤣

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org then I blame @prologic@twtxt.net, and no one else. LOL. But yeah, it is Saturday around 06:00 my time (EDT).

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org then I blame @prologic@twtxt.net, and no one else. LOL. But yeah, it is Saturday around 08:00 my time (EDT).

@bender@twtxt.net LOl so much or building a RSPVP thinty™ ma bob 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de he sure does! LOL. It is more like incomprehensible stuff that comes out. Sometimes I manage to get what he was trying to say, but more often than not I have no idea. 🤣

LOL loser you still use polynomials!? Weren’t those invented like thousands of years ago? LOL dude get with the times, everyone uses Equately for their equations now. It was made by 3 interns at Facebook, so it’s pretty much the new hotness.

@thecanine@twtxt.net alright, a canned reply. Better than nothing! (or equal to nothing, LOL).

@bender@twtxt.net See the problem is you don’t live in the “busy” enough 😂 There are roaches everywhere here! 🤣 LOL snakes too! Plovers, Magpies, Crows, Spiders, even Deer for fucks sake 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net I wouldn’t know where to look for little cockroaches, or roaches, in general! LOL. We buy seeds to feed them. But not around the neighborhood, otherwise we would have a problem. 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org lol 😅

@thecanine@twtxt.net content warning please! I had to go home and change, if you catch my drift. LOL. Well done!

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com, I mean to follow up here on the brief exchange we had on irc.mills.io, but I forgot. Never too late, so here it goes:

18:16 <aelaraji> quark 🙏 much appreciated but it won't be necessary, since there isn't much to miss out on in most of  where I hang out, so I could just disconnect and spare everyone else the noise 
18:17 *** aelaraji (aelaraji@776014f5a3edd32f1ed19658b7b85c8c655945b0feacaedd92fe60e61a3c0ae2) has quit (/ME goes "yeeeeet..!")
18:18 <quark> No noise for me. 
18:18 <quark> It’s all good. 
18:18 <quark> What would IRC be without on/offs?
18:19 <quark> Preeeety boring!
18:19 <quark> Ah, he was gone. 
18:19 <quark> Well, I will twtxt this to him.  LOL. 

@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it yeah, i didn’t even consider this as an option lol, though if it works it works! will you be writing a compatible proxy for self-hosting separate from the custom backend you were thinking of? :o

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL. I wish and hope they keep proposing it until the proposers die of natural causes, and then it vanishes. Hopeful thinking, I know…

@bender@twtxt.net Yes I did about a week or so ago. It took me a lot of effort to get the content even rendered in the first place. LOL I had to basically export my blog as HTML (can you believe that?!) – The Hugo export just didn’t work at all 🤣

Looking forward to see how it evolves! And happy to see you leaving behind micro. Good riddance! LOL.

@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it that sounds pretty much like Italy! LOL. We pay $48 on renewal in Florida, US, but that fee isn’t Federal, so other states may pay more, or less.

good afternoon yarnverse i have done nothing productive so far. except edit my fandom site a little bit (i added tag pages!). does that count lol

Lol, what an ending! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylHq9QUOUW4

I should have checked the CHANGELOG first. LOL.

having fun with omg.lol lately

@arne@uplegger.eu lol 😅

@arne@uplegger.eu LOl that’s hilarious 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org we NEED syntax highlighting in our man pages!!!! (FWIW i think bat can do that lol)

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz anyway here’s me!

i signed up for omg.lol and i’m really liking it. such a cozy and fun little community with a suite of fun web things. i wish the financial barrier to entry was a bit lower though (maybe like $5 for a few months on it or something) just so i could recommend it to my broke friends more, but i totally get why it’s priced the way it is (solo dev!!!)

@thecanine@twtxt.net image is so real lol literally me

Twtxt as a network is so neat. Sucks it isn’t more widely adopted ): I feel like it’d be way easier to host than say, mastodon or GTS. & would require WAYYYY less resources. Not a diss on GTS, I love GTS , just saying because it’s text files, I assume the minimum amount of ram needed to host any of the twtxt server software is very low.

I could be super wrong though lol. Idk shit about anything ^^”

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I BELIEVE IN U!!! Making it fun helps! Maybe like put images in the docs so it’s cuter to look at! I did that, but with physical journaling. Except instead of pics it was receipts & leaves & dried flowers lol

LOL. I felt like I was been left behind! 😜

working on a new astroJS based site and i hate being shit at web design because like i have the media for it ready (it’s for my fandom creations which are all done and ready to be shared here lol) but i keep agonizing over the design T__T

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL! No, I mean Wayland.

@prologic@twtxt.net Ah, I’m referring to software that’s similar to that of suckless.org: Small, minimal codebases, small tools, but still useful. dmenu is probably the best example and also farbfeld.

Here’s the author of Anubis talking about some of their experiences:

https://xeiaso.net/blog/why-i-use-suckless-tools-2020-06-05/

(You can skip the long config and keybinds part.)