tilde.club feeds have no # nick and is messing with yarnd's behavior š
@prologic@twtxt.net And none of them use Yarn-style threading. I donāt think theyāre aware of us, theyāre probably using plain twtxt. Other than one hit by @threatcat@tilde.club a few days ago, Iāve seen no traffic from them. š¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org nginx allows logging per user, via using defined variables on configuration. Not sure, though, if a Tilde would be willing to go to those āextremesā.
I used Gemini (the Google AI) twice at work today, asking about Google Workspace configuration and Google Cloud CLI usage (because we use those a lot). Youād think that itād be well-suited for those topics. It answered very confidently, yet completely wrong. Just wrong. Made-up CLI arguments, whatever. It took me a while to notice, though, because itās so convincing and, well, you implicitly and subconsciously trust the results of the Google AI when asking about Google topics, donāt you?
Will it get better over time? Maybe. But what I really want is this:
- Good, well-structured, easy-to-read, proper documentation. Google isnāt doing too bad in this regard, actually, itās just that they have so much stuff that itās hard to find what youāre looking for. Hence ā¦
- ⦠I want a good search function. Just give me a good fuzzy search for your docs. Thatās it.
I just donāt have the time or energy to constantly second-guess this stuff. Give me something reliable. Something that is designed to do the right thing, not toy around with probabilities. āAI for everythingā is just the wrong approach.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well, they say you have to build up stocks, donāt they? š
The font is fiamf3 (scaled up 2x, it would be too small when printed). Itās the same one that I use in my terminal and the status bars. š
It is harder to regain ownership of an IRC channel than crossing the Mexico/US border. š
I used to run office hours at Google and the number of people who came into my office absolutely convinced that there was no way to search a dataset without having the entire thing in memory for every process was too damn high.
Android shopping list apps disappointed me too many times, so I went back to writing these lists by hand a while ago.
Hereās whatās more fun: Write them in Vim and then print them on the dotmatrix printer. š„³
And, because I can, I use my own font for that, i.e. ImageMagick renders an image file and then a little tool converts that to ESC/P so I can dump it to /dev/usb/lp0.
(I have so much scrap paper from mail spam lying around that I donāt feel too bad about this. All these sheets would go straight to the bin otherwise.)

@bender@twtxt.net No plus-aliases, just aliases. The mailserver runs on my OpenBSB box and is managed using BundleWrap (we use that at work), so to create a new alias, I push a new BundleWrap config to the server.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de what do you use? Is it plus-aliased emails? I am curious to know how others are accomplishing this. I am currently using the āHide my Emailā feature, from iCloud.
Thank you for https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2025-11-09/0/POSTING-en.html, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! I never configured systemd timers, but I would have gotten it wrong, too. Good to know when I eventually stumble across that in the future. Iām still using cron. Yeah, its field order sucks and I always have to look it up (because I donāt deal with that all that often). Indeed, systemdās order sounds more reasonable.
I just successfully used my own SnipMail service with a real business, whoohoo! š„³
@thecanine@twtxt.net looks good! Was the use of asterisks instead of <li> a concerted choice (it doesnāt look intended, but I might be wrong)? With CSS you can replace bullets on lists with whatever you want.
Just a small update, on my birthday (on the 5th), I accidentally deleted the main page, of my website, so Iām using that as an opportunity, to try something new, at https://thecanine.smol.pub or gemini://thecanine.smol.pub - depending on your preferred protocol.
Any feedback is welcome!
@prologic@twtxt.net Heāll be probably back in a few days or weeks I reckon. Itās not the first time that his raspi (or what hardware does he use again?) is down. :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net Letās go through it one by one. Hereās a wall of text that took me over 1.5 hours to write.
The criticism of AI as untrustworthy is a problem of misapplication, not capability.This section says AI should not be treated as an authority. This is actually just what I said, except the AI phrased/framed it like it was a counter-argument.
The AI also said that users must develop āAI literacyā, again phrasing/framing it like a counter-argument. Well, that is also just what I said. I said you should treat AI output like a random blog and you should verify the sources, yadda yadda. That is āAI literacyā, isnāt it?
My text went one step further, though: I said that when you take this requirement of āAI literacyā into account, you basically end up with a fancy search engine, with extra overhead that costs time. The AI missed/ignored this in its reply.
Okay, so, the AI also said that you should use AI tools just for drafting and brainstorming. Granted, a very rough draft of something will probably be doable. But then you have to diligently verify every little detail of this draft ā okay, fine, a draft is a draft, itās fine if it contains errors. The thing is, though, that you really must do this verification. And I claim that many people will not do it, because AI outputs look sooooo convincing, they donāt feel like a draft that needs editing.
Can you, as an expert, still use an AI draft as a basis/foundation? Yeah, probably. But hereās the kicker: You did not create that draft. You were not involved in the āthought processā behind it. When you, a human being, make a draft, you often think something like: āOkay, I want to draw a picture of a landscape and thereās going to be a little house, but for now, Iāll just put in a rough sketch of the house and add the details later.ā You are aware of what you left out. When the AI did the draft, you are not aware of whatās missing ā even more so when every AI output already looks like a final product. For me, personally, this makes it much harder and slower to verify such a draft, and I mentioned this in my text.
Skill Erosion vs. Skill EvolutionYou, @prologic@twtxt.net, also mentioned this in your car tyre example.
In my text, I gave two analogies: The gym analogy and the Google Translate analogy. Your car tyre example falls in the same category, but Geminiās calculator example is different (and, again, gaslight-y, see below).
What I meant in my text: A person wants to be a programmer. To me, a programmer is a person who writes code, understands code, maintains code, writes documentation, and so on. In your example, a person who changes a car tyre would be a mechanic. Now, if you use AI to write the code and documentation for you, are you still a programmer? If you have no understanding of said code, are you a programmer? A person who does not know how to change a car tyre, is that still a mechanic?
No, youāre something else. You should not be hired as a programmer or a mechanic.
Yes, that is āskill evolutionā ā which is pretty much my point! But the AI framed it like a counter-argument. It didnāt understand my text.
(But what if thatās our future? What if all programming will look like that in some years? I claim: Itās not possible. If you donāt know how to program, then you donāt know how to read/understand code written by an AI. You are something else, but youāre not a programmer. It might be valid to be something else ā but that wasnāt my point, my point was that youāre not a bloody programmer.)
Geminiās calculator example is garbage, I think. Crunching numbers and doing mathematics (i.e., ācomplex problem-solvingā) are two different things. Just because you now have a calculator, doesnāt mean itāll free you up to do mathematical proofs or whatever.
What would have worked is this: Letās say youāre an accountant and you sum up spendings. Without a calculator, this takes a lot of time and is error prone. But when you have one, you can work faster. But once again, thereās a little gaslight-y detail: A calculator is correct. Yes, it could have ābugsā (hello Intel FDIV), but its design actually properly calculates numbers. AI, on the other hand, does not understand a thing (our current AI, that is), itās just a statistical model. So, this modified example (āaccountant with a calculatorā) would actually have to be phrased like this: Suppose thereās an accountant and you give her a magic box that spits out the correct result in, what, I donāt know, 70-90% of the time. The accountant couldnāt rely on this box now, could she? Sheād either have to double-check everything or accept possibly wrong results. And that is how I feel like when I work with AI tools.
Gemini has no idea that its calculator example doesnāt make sense. It just spits out some generic āargumentā that it picked up on some website.
3. The Technical and Legal Perspective (Scraping and Copyright)The AI makes two points here. The first one, I might actually agree with (ābad bot behavior is not the fault of AI itselfā).
The second point is, once again, gaslighting, because it is phrased/framed like a counter-argument. It implies that I said something which I didnāt. Like the AI, I said that you would have to adjust the copyright law! At the same time, the AI answer didnāt even question whether itās okay to break the current law or not. It just said ālol yeah, change the lawsā. (I wonder in what way the laws would have to be changed in the AIās āopinionā, because some of these changes could kill some business opportunities ā or the laws would have to have special AI clauses that only benefit the AI techbros. But I digress, that wasnāt part of Geminiās answer.)
tl;drExcept for one point, I donāt accept any of Geminiās ācriticismā. It didnāt pick up on lots of details, ignored arguments, and I can just instinctively tell that this thing does not understand anything it wrote (which is correct, itās just a statistical model).
And it framed everything like a counter-argument, while actually repeating what I said. Thatās gaslighting: When Alice says āthe sky is blueā and Bob replies with āwhy do you say the sky is purple?!ā
But it sure looks convincing, doesnāt it?
Never againThis took so much of my time. I wonāt do this again. š
This brings a thought I had for a long time, why canāt we upload arbitrary files to a twtxt? If not an image, make it simply a link. I could have used such feature to upload the text.
Bavaria is moving to the Microsoft cloud: The state government intends to conclude a contract with the US corporation by the end of the year for the use of the cloud office package Microsoft 365.
Source: https://www.heise.de/en/news/Bavaria-wants-to-move-to-Microsoft-cloud-by-year-end-11066929.html
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de using gopher also limits tenth fold the amount of bystanders you will get. I think a finger .plan would probably have a bigger audience. :-D :-P
And, one last missed:
- AI is Forcing Legal Modernization: The copyright double standard is a failure of outdated law. AI provides the necessary impetus for legal reform to either create fair compensation frameworks for creators or establish a clear new definition of fair use for data-driven models.
@prologic@twtxt.net Nothing, yet. It was sent in written form. Thereās probably little point in fighting this, they have made up their minds already (and AI is being rolled up en masse in other departments), but on the other hand, there are ā truthfully ā very few areas where AI could actually be useful to me.
There are going to be many discussions about this ā¦
This is completely against the āspiritā of this company, btw. We used to say: āItās the goal that matters. Use whatever tools you think are appropriate.ā Thatās why Iām allowed to use Linux on my laptop. Maybe they will back down eventually when they realize that trying to push this on people is pointless. Maybe not.
It happened.
Management asked me if Iām using enough AI and what Iām doing to learn more about it.
š„³ Just released Gatherly v0.3.0 š¤ ā My instance is available at: https://gatherly.mills.io (free for anyone to use)
Specimen 1: A caveman marking his territory: 
Wow! 𤩠Are folks actually using Gatherly already? š¤ 
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Never used Java FX.
Javaās Swing is allegedly in āmaintenance modeā, so I doubt itās a good idea to use it for new programs. For example, I very much doubt that it will ever support Wayland.
The replacement is supposed to be JavaFX, but thatās not included in JREs ā anymore! It used to be, now itās not, even though itās well over 15 years old now.
This whole thing (āJava GUIsā) appears to have stagnated a lot. Probably because everything is web stuff these days ā¦
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javafx/faq-javafx.html#6
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, give it a shot. At worst you know that you have to continue your quest. :-)
Fun fact, during a semester break I was actually a little bored, so I just started reading the Qt documentation. I didnāt plan on using Qt for anything, though. I only looked at the docs because they were on my bucket list for some reason. Qt was probably recommended to me and coming from KDE myself, that was motivation enough to look at the docs just for fun.
The more I read, the more hooked I got. The documentation was extremely well written, something Iāve never seen before. The structure was very well thought out and I got the impression that I understood what the people thought when they actually designed Qt.
A few days in I decided to actually give it a real try. Having never done anything in C++ before, I quickly realized that this endeavor wonāt succeed. I simply couldnāt get it going. But I found the Qt bindings for Python, so that was a new boost. And quickly after, I discovered that there were even KDE bindings for Python in my package manager, so I immediately switched to them as that integrated into my KDE desktop even nicer.
I used the Python KDE bindings for one larger project, a planning software for a summer camp that we used several years. Itās main feature was to see who is available to do an activity. In the past, that was done on a large sheet of paper, but people got assigned two activities at the same time or werenāt assigned at all. So, by showing people in yellow (free), green (one activity assigned) and red (overbooked), this sped up and improved the planning process.
Another core feature was to generate personalized time tables (just like back in school) and a dedicated view for the morning meeting on site.
It was extended over the years with all sorts of stuff. E.g. I then implemented a warning if all the custodians of an activitiy with kids were underage to satisfy new the guidelines that there should be somebody of age.
Just before the pandemic I started to even add support for personalized live views on phones or tablets during the planning process (with web sockets, though). This way, people could see their own schedule or independently check at which day an activity takes place etc. For these side quests, they donāt have to check the large matrix on the projector. But the project died there.
Hereās a screenshot from one of the main views: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/k3man.png
This Python+Qt rewrite replaced and improved the Java+Swing predecessor.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ⦠guess I should take a look at Qt. š¤ Thatās the one popular toolkit that Iāve never really tried for some reason. I really donāt like C++ (might as well use Rust), so Iāll also use Python.
Actually. Looking at the template and the BeerCSS docs, I think Iām just using the wrong elements and doing the wrong thing in the template/partial structure itself š¤ Probably need to wrap text in something else other than a plain āol <p>
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Uh, that actually looks not that terrible. Somehow, I remember Swing GUIs being way uglier.
As for Visual Basic, I only had to use VBA once in my life. That was in the beginning of my career when I inherited a project from a leaving coworker. Fuck me, was that awful. Just alone the damn compiler error dialog box popping up in my face all the time while editing and the compiler already trying to parse the unfinished and hence of course uncompilable code. Boy, that left a lasting impression on me. I ported everything to Java very quickly. Luckily, the code base wasnāt all that large at that point in time. I had to add a bunch of new features after that, so I was very glad that I convinced my workmate/project manager to do that first. We didnāt even need a GUI, the button in Excel was transformed to a command line program that just generated the large file.
But I cannot comment on the VB GUI designer, I never used that. Your screenshot looks very similar to the Delphi one, though. Only towards the end of my Delphi days I found out about the possibility to make the widgets snap to window edges and corners (I donāt remember how that was called), so that resizing the windows was actually possible without messing up their entire contents.
Switching to Linux, Delphi wasnāt an option anymore. For some reason I couldnāt use Kylix. Maybe it was already dead by the time I changed OSes. Or I couldnāt get it to run. I just donāt remember. I just recall that the unavailability of Delphi was the reason it took me a while to actually settle on Linux. I then fully switched to Java. The GridBagLayout was my absolutely favorite Swing layout manager. I reckon I used it 98% of the time, because it was so powerful and made the windows resize properly, just as I had learned to do in Delphi shortly before.
Up until discovering Swing, I used Javaās AWT for a short amount of time. That was very limited I think and I hit the limits fairly quickly. Later at uni, we had one project making use of SWT. Didnāt convince me either. I could be wrong, but I think there was also a SWT GUI designer plugin for Eclipse. If there really was, that one wasnāt in the same street as Delphiās (there must be a reason I forgot about it ;-)).
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Donāt you worry, this was meant as a joke. :-D
There was a time when I thought that Swing was actually really good. But having done some Qt/KDE later, I realized how much better that was. That were the late KDE 3 and early KDE 4 days, though. Not sure how it is today. But back then it felt Trolltech and the KDE folks put a hell lot more thought into their stuff. I was pleasantly surprised how natural it appeared and all the bits played together. Sure, there were the odd ends, but the overall design was a lot better in my opinion.
To be fair, I never used it from C++, always the Python bindings, which were considerably more comfortable (just alone the possibility to specify most attributes right away as kwargs in the constructor instead of calling tons of setters). And QtJambi, the Java binding, was also relatively nice. I never did a real project though, just played around with the latter.
The one for Delphi was quite good.
It was! I didnāt use Delphi for long, though. Dunno why, I always gravitated towards Visual Basic back then. š
These days I donāt deal with GUI programming anymore.
I also avoid it when possible, because ⦠itās exhausting, because ⦠the tools that I have/know are āsubparā. Doing anything regarding GUIs always feels like a chore. That wasnāt the case in the VB days.
Well, I made this in ~2009 with Java/Swing and it was pretty nice to work with, custom widgets and all:
https://movq.de/v/de26d5edb3/s.png
I wouldnāt dare doing this with GTK.
And maybe I should go back to using GUI designers. Havenāt used those since the Visual Basic days. š¤ It wasnāt pretty, but you got results very quickly and efficiently.
(When I switched to Linux, I quickly got stuck with GTK and that only had Glade, which wasnāt super great at the time, so I didnāt start using it ⦠and then I never questioned that decision ā¦)
Just typing twts directly into my twtxt file.
Details:
- Opening my twtxt file remotely using
vim scp://user@remote:port//path/to/twtxt.txt
- Inserting the date, time and tab part of the twt with
:.!echo "$(date -Is)\t"
- In case I need to add a new line I just
Ctrl+Shift+u, type in the2028and hitEnter
- In order to replay, you just steal a twt hash from your favorite Yarn instance.
It looks tedious, but itās fun to know I can twt no matter where I am, as long as can ssh in.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com tell us all about it, without omitting details!
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org maybe @prologic@twtxt.net managed to mess things upāwe should be used to this already, right? LOLāas the meets are always on Saturdays, as early as 06:00 EDT, or whereabouts, never on a Sunday.
You want me to submit a reply with āI probably wonāt show upā?
I LOLed IRL! š¤£
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, now Iām curious what use case you have in mind. :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Itās way more expensive and time-consuming in the end. If only somebody had warned us!!1
The triangle reminds me of zalgo text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalgo_text
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Theyāre seriously telling us at work: āCan it be AIād? Do it, donāt waste time!ā Shit like that is the result. (Whatās this weird gray triangle in the bottom right corner?)
We had some gray soup with the occasional fine rain with strong wind gusts. Despite the bad forecast we took the train to Geislingen/Steige and strolled up to the Helfenstein castle ruin. All the colorful leaves were so beautiful, it didnāt matter that the sun was behind thick layers of clouds.
We then continued to the Ćdenturm (lit. boring tower). By then the wind had picked up by quite a bit, just as the weatherman predicted. We were very positively surprised that the Swabian Jura Association had opened up the tower. Between May and October, the tower is typically only manned on Sundays and holidays between 10 and 17 oāclock. But yesterday was Saturday and no holiday. The lovely lady up there told us that theyāre currently experimenting with opening up on Saturday, too, because there are some highly motivated members responsible for the tower.
We were the very first visitors on that day. Last Sunday, when the weather lived up to the weekdayās name, they counted 128 people up in the tower. Very impressive.
The wind gusts were howling around the tower. Luckily, there are glass windows. So, it was quite pleasant up in the tower room. Chatting with the tower guard for a while, we got even luckier: the sun came out! That was really awesome. The photos donāt do justice. As always, it looked way more stunning in person.
Thanks to all the volunteers who make it possible to enjoy the view from the thirty odd meters up there. That certainly made our day!
After signing the guestbook we climbed down the staircase and returned to the station and headed back. The train even arrived on time. What a great little trip!
https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-auf-die-burgruine-helfenstein-und-den-oedenturm-2025-10-25/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I guess I wasnāt talking about the speed of interesting text/context, but more the āslownessā of these tools. I think I can build/ solutions and fix bugs faster most of the time? Hmmm š¤ I think the only thing itās able to do better than me is grasp large codebases and do pattern machines a bit better, mostly because weāre limited by the interfaces we have to use and in my ase being vision impaired doesnāt help :/
The most infuriating 3 seconds of using this Mac every day are the first time I run man and it calls home to see if Iām allowed to do that.
Hmmm nope. I think Iāve fucked up my network for use with self-hsoted WebRTC. This isnāt a PeerCalls thing at all, this is just me.
@bender@twtxt.net It used to work just fine⢠- I wonder if itās my WAF? Lemme turn the WAF off for this tieā¦
Der ganze Vorgang ist archetypisch für die seit Jahrzehnten völlig ohne Not stattfindende politische Selbstverzwergung Europas.
A comment on heise about the recent AWS outage.
(Too bad thereās no good translation for the great word āSelbstverzwergungā.)
Iām paraphrasing: Europe (and other regions) depend on US IT services, a lot, without an actual need. We saw AWS, Google, and Microsoft build large datacenters and then we thought āwelp, shit, nothing we can do about that, guess weāll just be an AWS customer from now on.ā Nobody really went ahead and built German/European alternatives. And now we completely depend on the US for lots of our stuff.
The article even claims that thereās now a shortage of sysadmins in the EU? Iām not so sure. But Iād welcome it, makes my job more secure. š¤£
Hosting services, datacenters, software, everything, itās all US stuff. Why do we accept this, why not build alternatives ā¦
Hey all š Starring up the monthly social call we used to have š¤ Please RSVP here if you can make it! š
Behold! š„³ I consider Gatherly āgood enoughā⢠to use: https://gatherly.mills.io/ š¤
jenny.vim?
@bender@twtxt.net I think youāve asked for that a while ago. š
Does that diff actually help? Donāt you have to use A (instead of i) anyway? š¤
That was a very non-fun day at work.
Weāre not using AWS directly, but soooooooooooooooo much other stuff does.
Anyone interested in starting up the monthly social calls we used to have? š